Document 14
Connell, Elisha
From:
Connell, Elisha
Sent:
Wednesday, 14 February 2024 9:36 am
To:
Kel y Harris
Cc:
Denoual, Hayley; Handley, Georgie; Ben Logan-Milne
Subject:
RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Kia ora Kelly,
Thanks for the update on this, we appreciate it. Georgie is away today, but Hayley and I will work on next steps as
suitable in the meantime.
Ngā mihi,
Elisha
Elisha Connel (she/her)
Senior Policy Advisor | Electoral and Constitutional
Civil and Constitutional Unit | Policy Group
Ministry of Justice | Tāhū o te Ture
S9(2)(a)
[email address] | justice.govt.nz
From: Kel y Harris <Kel [email address]>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2024 9:25 am
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>; Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Hi Georgie,
Just to let you know that this Bill does not appear to have been discussed at Business Committee this week:
https://selectcommittees.parliament.nz/v/8/69a9202e-0737-4e05-fc26-08dc2c5a83ee
Cheers
Kelly
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 5:34 PM
To: Kel y Harris <[email address]>; Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Thanks Kelly – I get that you can’t share it without the authority of the Member.
I’m interested in anything you can share Ben, S18(c)(ii)
– assuming that is what the Business Committee will be deciding tomorrow, and notifying on Wednesday?
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I worked on a member’s bill that was adopted by the govt but it was such a long time ago I can’t remember anything
about how that happened! So any assistance would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Georgie
From: Kel y Harris <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, 12 February 2024 5:10 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>; Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Hi Georgie,
I appreciate that this is frustrating, but unfortunately draft legislation is legal advice so I cannot share it with you
without the authority of the member the bill was drafted for, which I do not have.
In terms of what happened at the Officers of Parliament Committee, I wasn’t there, but my colleague Ben (cc’d
above) is the Clerk of that committee and he will be able to assist you with your queries about that.
Cheers
Kelly
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 4:48 PM
To: Kel y Harris <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Thanks Kelly
Appreciate you letting us know if anything comes out of the Business Committee determinations on Wednesday. In
the meantime, are we able to find about anything more from the Officers of Parliament Committee? S18(c)(ii)
Any chance it could be shared with us so we can begin to
prepare sooner rather than later to support our Minister?
Thanks
Georgie
From: Kel y Harris <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, 12 February 2024 3:21 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Hi Georgie,
I have followed up on our call this morning to see if there was anything further happening with the Bill.
S18(c)(ii)
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I’ll let you know if anything comes out of the Business Committee determinations on Wednesday but if it is a
Government Bill it would not require a resolution of the committee to progress differently than the SOs would
otherwise provide.
Kind regards
Kelly
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 1:03 PM
To: Kel y Harris <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Hi Kelly
Thanks for your time earlier.
As discussed we would be interested in hearing the outcome of the upcoming HBC meeting when you get
notification on Wednesday morning. I have just remembered that I am on leave on Wednesday so please can you
copy in Hayley and Elisha to that email as well?
Ngā mihi
Georgie
Principal Policy Advisor | Electoral and Constitutional
Civil and Constitutional Unit | Policy Group
Ministry of Justice | Tāhū o te Ture
S9(2)(a)
National Office | Justice Centre | 19 Aitken Street
DX Box SX10088 | Wellington
[email address] | justice.govt.nz
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Document 15
Connell, Elisha
From:
Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Sent:
Tuesday, 13 February 2024 1:01 pm
To:
Handley, Georgie
Cc:
Denoual, Hayley; Connell, Elisha
Subject:
RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Attachments:
Ombudsmen Removal of Limit on Age of Ombudsmen NoName A-v1.1 1.pdf
Kia or Geordie,
The Speaker has given authority to share the attached draft legislation with you.
As for the potential next steps for this legislation, could we arrange a time to speak briefly on the
phone?
If today suits, I’m free for a call before 2pm, or between 4 – 4.30. Happy to arrange another time this
week if more suitable for you.
Ngā mihi
Ben
Ben Logan-Milne (He/Him)
Manager – Select Committees
Kaiwhakahaere – Ratonga Komiti Whiriwhiri
DDI 64 22 193 0214
E [email address]
Private Bag 18041, Wel ington 6160, New Zealand
www.parliament.nz
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 5:34 PM
To: Kel y Harris <[email address]>; Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Thanks Kelly – I get that you can’t share it without the authority of the Member.
I’m interested in anything you can share Ben, S18(c)(ii)
– assuming that is what the Business Committee will be deciding tomorrow, and notifying on Wednesday?
I worked on a member’s bill that was adopted by the govt but it was such a long time ago I can’t remember anything
about how that happened! So any assistance would be gratefully received.
1
Thanks
Georgie
From: Kel y Harris <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, 12 February 2024 5:10 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>; Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Hi Georgie,
I appreciate that this is frustrating, but unfortunately draft legislation is legal advice so I cannot share it with you
without the authority of the member the bill was drafted for, which I do not have.
In terms of what happened at the Officers of Parliament Committee, I wasn’t there, but my colleague Ben (cc’d
above) is the Clerk of that committee and he will be able to assist you with your queries about that.
Cheers
Kelly
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 4:48 PM
To: Kel y Harris <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Thanks Kelly
Appreciate you letting us know if anything comes out of the Business Committee determinations on Wednesday. In
the meantime, are we able to find about anything more from the Officers of Parliament Committee? S18(c)(ii)
Any chance it could be shared with us so we can begin to
prepare sooner rather than later to support our Minister?
Thanks
Georgie
From: Kel y Harris <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, 12 February 2024 3:21 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Hi Georgie,
I have followed up on our call this morning to see if there was anything further happening with the Bill.
S18(c)(ii)
I’ll let you know if anything comes out of the Business Committee determinations on Wednesday but if it is a
Government Bill it would not require a resolution of the committee to progress differently than the SOs would
otherwise provide.
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Kind regards
Kelly
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 1:03 PM
To: Kel y Harris <[email address]>
Cc: Denoual, Hayley <[email address]>; Connell, Elisha <[email address]>
Subject: Ombudsmen Amendment Bill
Hi Kelly
Thanks for your time earlier.
As discussed we would be interested in hearing the outcome of the upcoming HBC meeting when you get
notification on Wednesday morning. I have just remembered that I am on leave on Wednesday so please can you
copy in Hayley and Elisha to that email as well?
Ngā mihi
Georgie
Principal Policy Advisor | Electoral and Constitutional
Civil and Constitutional Unit | Policy Group
Ministry of Justice | Tāhū o te Ture
S9(2)(a)
National Office | Justice Centre | 19 Aitken Street
DX Box SX10088 | Wellington
[email address] | justice.govt.nz
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
The content of this email, including any attachment, is intended for the named recipient only and is not necessarily the official view or communication of the Office of the
Clerk. It may contain material and/or confidential information.
If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must not copy it, distribute it or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please notify
the sender immediately and delete this email. Although this email has been scanned for viruses, this email is not guaranteed to be free of viruses and should be checked by
your own security mechanisms. No liability is accepted for any loss or damage arising from the use of this email or its attachments.
Please consider the environment before printing this email.
The content of this email, including any attachment, is intended for the named recipient only and is not necessarily the official view or communication of the Office of the
Clerk. It may contain material and/or confidential information.
If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must not copy it, distribute it or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this email in error, please notify
the sender immediately and delete this email. Although this email has been scanned for viruses, this email is not guaranteed to be free of viruses and should be checked by
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Document 16
From:
Handley, Georgie
Sent:
Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:53 am
To:
Connell, Elisha
Subject:
FW: Request for access
From: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2024 2:28 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Request for access
Hi Georgie,
Yes, that would be fine
Thanks
Ben
Ben Logan-Milne (He/Him)
Manager – Select Committees
Kaiwhakahaere – Ratonga Komiti Whiriwhiri
DDI 64 22 193 0214
E [email address]
Private Bag 18041, Wel ington 6160, New Zealand
www.parliament.nz
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 2:26:33 PM
To: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Request for access
Thanks Ben
Just been speaking to PCO and there is nothing in their system. Mark has asked whether I can just pass on the
attachment to your last email?
Thanks
Georgie
From: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2024 1:46 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Request for access
Kia ora Georgie,
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The Parliamentary Law and Practice team have passed on the attached draft amendment
Many thanks
Ben
From: Ben Logan-Milne
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 11:58 AM
To: Kel y Harris <[email address]>; Chris Cliff <[email address]>
Cc: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Subject: Request for access
Kia ora PLP folks,
I’m passing on a request for access to the draft amendment to the Ombudsman Act. My
understanding is the Ministry of Justice has been asked to prepare a paper on the subject, for urgent
Cabinet consideration.
@Kelly, are you able to grant this access permission please? I’l admit I’m entirely unfamiliar with PLP’s
systems and processes, so I’ve ccd Georgie Handley from MoJ to confirm any details.
The Speaker has approved the release of the PLP draft.
Ngā mihi
Ben
Ben Logan-Milne (He/Him)
Manager – Select Committees
Kaiwhakahaere – Ratonga Komiti Whiriwhiri
DDI 64 22 193 0214
E [email address]
Private Bag 18041, Wel ington 6160, New Zealand
www.parliament.nz
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Document 17
From:
Handley, Georgie
Sent:
Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:52 am
To:
Connell, Elisha
Subject:
FW: Request for access
Follow Up Flag:
Follow up
Flag Status:
Flagged
From: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2024 4:08 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Request for access
Kia ora Georgie,
Many thanks for this update, it’s much appreciated
Cheers
Ben
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2024 12:55 PM
To: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Request for access
Hi Ben
We have just got an update from our MO – apparently the decision is not to legislate now, and reappointment is the
preferred option. So no need for the Bill now.
Thanks for your time and patience as we worked this one through!
Georgie
From: Handley, Georgie
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2024 2:26 pm
To: 'Ben Logan-Milne' <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Request for access
Thanks Ben
Just been speaking to PCO and there is nothing in their system. Mark has asked whether I can just pass on the
attachment to your last email?
Thanks
Georgie
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From: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2024 1:46 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Request for access
Kia ora Georgie,
The Parliamentary Law and Practice team have passed on the attached draft amendment
Many thanks
Ben
From: Ben Logan-Milne
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 11:58 AM
To: Kel y Harris <[email address]>; Chris Cliff <[email address]>
Cc: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Subject: Request for access
Kia ora PLP folks,
I’m passing on a request for access to the draft amendment to the Ombudsman Act. My
understanding is the Ministry of Justice has been asked to prepare a paper on the subject, for urgent
Cabinet consideration.
@Kelly, are you able to grant this access permission please? I’l admit I’m entirely unfamiliar with PLP’s
systems and processes, so I’ve ccd Georgie Handley from MoJ to confirm any details.
The Speaker has approved the release of the PLP draft.
Ngā mihi
Ben
Ben Logan-Milne (He/Him)
Manager – Select Committees
Kaiwhakahaere – Ratonga Komiti Whiriwhiri
DDI 64 22 193 0214
E [email address]
Private Bag 18041, Wel ington 6160, New Zealand
www.parliament.nz
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Document 18
From:
Handley, Georgie
Sent:
Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:53 am
To:
Connell, Elisha
Subject:
FW: Advice on a motion in the House
From: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2024 12:07 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Advice on a motion in the House
Happy to help.
Ben Logan-Milne (He/Him)
Manager – Select Committees
Kaiwhakahaere – Ratonga Komiti Whiriwhiri
DDI 64 22 193 0214
E [email address]
Private Bag 18041, Wel ington 6160, New Zealand
www.parliament.nz
From: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2024 12:04:38 PM
To: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Advice on a motion in the House
Many thanks for your assistance!
From: Ben Logan-Milne <[email address]>
Sent: Friday, 23 February 2024 12:04 pm
To: Handley, Georgie <[email address]>
Subject: Advice on a motion in the House
Kia ora Georgie,
Thanks for your time to speak this morning, and for the update.
To seek advice on the wording of a motion in the House, I recommend contacting the House Office:
[email address]
If easier to have a conversation, the House Office Manager Pavan Sharma will be able to assist:
s9(2)(a)
Ngā mihi
Ben
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Ben Logan-Milne (He/Him)
Manager – Select Committees
Kaiwhakahaere – Ratonga Komiti Whiriwhiri
DDI 64 22 193 0214
E [email address]
Private Bag 18041, Wel ington 6160, New Zealand
www.parliament.nz
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