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Just an FYI since the OIA’s are coming in but this is broadly how I propose we respond to these
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Hi out of 
 
Happy to have a meeting about this to discuss it by my initial thoughts are as follows:
 
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Summary of s 9(2)(a) OIA:
 
Approximate costs to implement the change.
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At this stage, NZTA has not received any cost estimates to implement the change. Any design
work to change the logo will be undertaken in house as part of business as usual along with a
number of other changes, for example updating letterhead, email signatures and templates.
At this stage our approach to other changes to things like signage and stationery is to use a new
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logo for anything new or for anything that needs replacing as these are costs that would be
incurred regardless of the change.  For example, we will use up old stationery first and replace
the logo when ordering new stationery.
This was the same approach that was taken when we last changed our logo and the only cost
incurred for that change related to one sign that was changed at our Head Office and some legal
costs for trademarking the new logo.
 
With regards to s 9(2)(a) request, because of the approach we are going to take we don’t have
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the costs and we are not anticipating getting any cost estimates, specifically:
 
The design & rebranding of all offices -  all design work will be undertaken in-house and
we are not anticipating rebranding our offices at this stage.  If signage is updated or we
move to new premises the newest logo will be used at that time


Vehicles - all design work will be undertaken in-house and we are not anticipating
rebranding our vehicles at this stage.  Any new vehicles entering our fleet  will be branded
with the newest logo at that time
The design & printing of forms, leaflets, & letterhead – all design work will be undertaken
in-house. Old stock will be used up first and when reprinting is required they will be
printed with the newest logo at that time
 
Provide the individual cost per item, including any items that I have not listed specifically,
but that carry the Waka Kotahi brand & that will need to change as part of the
department rebrand – because of the approach we are taking we cannot provide this
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information because it doesn’t exist and the time and cost to identify every item and get
costs for it is not required.
Please also provide the full cost of not having to redesign & rebrand each item (including
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items I haven’t listed, but that carry the Waka Kotahi brand) – as above.  
 
Kind regards
 
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Kia ora out of 
Thanks for passing this on. Let me chat with out of   about this, so we can start collecting the
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Ngā mihi.
 
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Manager, Design and Brand
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RE: Ministerial Request (OIA - Official Information Act) Ref number OIA-14244 has been assigned to you
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Friday, 8 December 2023 4:06:00 PM
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Hi team
Can we please be consistent with the statement that the Minister has provided media on this
topic in relation to the instruction – it is below thanks.
Transport Minister Simeon Brown has moved swiftly to instruct Waka Kotahi staff to
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begin using their agency's English name first in communications.
A spokesperson for Brown told 1News in a statement on Monday night: "In a meeting with
officials, Transport Minister Simeon Brown advised NZTA of the coalition agreement regarding
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the use of Māori names and to ensure they had a plan to give effect to it."
As part of its coalition agreement with New Zealand First, the new government had agreed to
ensure all public service departments had their primary name in English, except for those
specifically related to Māori.
Ngā mihi nui
Karen Jones
Group General Manager

Pūmanawa Tāngata | People and Safety (acting)
Te Waka Kōtuia | Engagement and Partnerships
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Subject: RE: Ministerial Request (OIA - Official Information Act) Ref number OIA-14244 has been
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Hi Out of scope
I’ve attached the responses provided to s 9(2)(a)
Note that at the time these responses were provided, no formal directive had been received
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RE: Kia ira whaea
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Tuesday, 12 December 2023 8:01:00 AM
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Morena Out of scop
 
I’d forgotten about that page on the external site so will work on getting that updated with our
updated logo and the updated naming conventions as well.  Might take a few days!
 
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Just received this from s 9(2)(a)
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you please add the paragraph below.
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We need to follow government direction but we also need to acknowledge the mana and
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responsibility of our Māori name.  Kia pai te rā.  Out of sco
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CAUTION: The sender of this email is from outside Waka Kotahi. Do not click links, attachments, or reply
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Kia ora Whaea
 
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Hope all is well. With all the raru about the maori names for govt departments it reminded me i
forgot to update the main website with so e tumu koorero that i heard from s 9(2)(a)
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thinking that the below paragraph could be slotted into the link below somewhere as an artefact
and part of our whakapapa. Will leave to you whaea, ngaa mihi.
 

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/about-us/about-waka-kotahi-nz-transport-agency/using-our-logo/
 
 
The name Waka Kotahi was created by the late Te Arawa kaumatua and decorated veteran
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 who was the first Tumuaki - Māori Manager for the agency, the late Out of 
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 who was the cultural advisor to the New Zealand government and
New Zealand Olympic Team and s 9(2)(a)
 the previous Maori Manager for Transit New
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RE: Key points from Nicole - debrief after call
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Thursday, 14 December 2023 11:36:00 AM
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A few tweaks thanks. Out of scope can you liase with Out   as the intro the video thanks.
Ngā mihi nui

Karen Jones
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Subject: FW: Key points from Nicole - debrief after call
Hi Out of scope and Karen, thanks for this, please see the revised version below.
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Let me know if you are all good with this.
Key points from Nicole’s briefing:
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 We’ll be sharing as much information with you as we can. We don’t have all the
information yet, which means we’ll need to a staged approach to addressing the
direction from Government. Two examples given on the live call were changing
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a.  We’ve had a request from our Minister to use our English name first. Our
English name, New Zealand Transport Agency, is our legal name, so we’ve
starting making changes already. We’ve changed our name in our media
releases and the templates we use with the Minister’s office. Once we have
further written direction, we’ll provide further guidance, including updating
the style guide and email signatures.
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appreciative of any support we can provide in preparing the key points.
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showed a high level of engagement. Are you OK to send to Karen once you’ve made any edits
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Key points from Nicole’s briefing:
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5. We’ll be sharing as much information with you as we can. We don’t have all the
information yet, which means we’ll need to a staged approach to addressing the
direction from Government. Two examples are changing our name to English
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a.  We’ve had a verbal direction to use our English name first. Our English name,
New Zealand Transport Agency, is our legal name, so we’ve starting making
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changes already. We’ve changed our name in our media releases and the
templates we use with the Minister’s office. Once we have written direction,
we’ll provide further guidance, including updating the style guide and email
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signatures.
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I'm out this arvo - can you take a look here and strip back between you both thanks?
We also don't want to send people to MoT just remind people that we are primarily a delivery
agency and MoT are the policy agency etc
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Key points from Nicole in debriefing – ie what she wants people to know. (will need to clear with
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3.  We’ll get more on the branding/name online as soon as we get written direction. While
we’ve had the oral direction to go English first with our name – we need the written
direction to provide more detail around what this will mean in practice for us. It will be an
iterative process of change regardless, not everything will change over night. Waka Kotahi
is still part of our legal name. Full guidance around use of our name and logo will go via
OnRamp as soon as we get the final green light – this will give you more to go on.
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She noted a session around little p and big P policy for next year too – one to pick up further with
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we link it in with)
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Hi out of   – attached for sending when you have a moment
 
Thanks!
 
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Yes definitely letterhead thanks s 9(2)  
 
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Sure. But is this going to be put on letterhead or am I sending as an email?
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I’ve checked with Out of scope and it should go from Nicole’s email. Out of scope , can I leave with you
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From:
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RE: For advice : Due today : Logo and Livery Update
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Friday, 15 December 2023 2:02:00 PM
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Yes use the new logo. I note the trucks will be used in the New Year so that aligns with new
guidance.
Ngā mihi nui
Karen Jones
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Group General Manager
Pūmanawa Tāngata | People and Safety (acting)
Te Waka Kōtuia | Engagement and Partnerships
Phone: s 9(2)(a)
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Mobile:
Waka Kotahi NZ Transport Agency
National Office, 44 Bowen Street
Private Bag 6995, Wellington 6141, New Zealand
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Sent: Friday, 15 December 2023 1:57 pm
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Subject: For advice : Due today : Logo and Livery Update
Kia ora Karen
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WTA has new fleet coming in and has queried whether to use the current logo or an English first
version. Out of scope suggested I check with you, noting that we’ve used the new logo in some
upcoming advertising.
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