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Subject:
Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules
Date:
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Attachments:
Te Ahuru Mowai Submission - Submission.docx v3 (002).docx
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Please find attached the Te Ahuru Mowai submission on the Government discussion document
on housing - Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules
Nga mihi
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w: www.teahurumowai.co.nz 


 
 

 

Government Discussion Document 
Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 
 
Submission 
 
from 
Te Āhuru Mōwai 
 
 
 
 
 
A. Te Āhuru Mōwai: 
 
•  is a registered Community Housing Provider with charitable status.  
•  Is the largest Iwi-owned and lead Community Housing Provider in the country. 
•  currently qualifies for tax “exempt income” under CW 42B of the Income Tax Act 2007. 
•  is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Te Runanga o Toa Rangatira Inc (TROTR) – which is 
Ngāti Toa’s charitable entity. 
•  manages over 900 housing units in West Porirua which are used as rental public 
housing, with tenants placed from the government’s public housing register. 
•  has a 25-year term Capacity Services Agreement with Ministry of Housing and Urban 
Development (HUD) for placements from public housing register with income-related rent 
subsidies (IRRS). 
•  has a 25-year term lease of all properties from Housing New Zealand Ltd (and its 
operating arm, Kāinga Ora), which took ef ect in October 2020. This resulted in a change 
of landlord for all existing tenants at the time. 
•  is a key component of the partnership between the Crown and Ngāti Toa which 
recognises relinquishment of RFR rights on Kāinga Ora properties in East Porirua in 
exchange for the right to lease, manage, acquire, and redevelop Kāinga Ora properties 
in West Porirua as well as first rights to redevelop super lots in East Porirua that are 
released by Housing New Zealand Building Ltd. 
 
B. POINTS OF SUBMISSION: 
 
1.  Extend Kāinga Ora Exemption to CHP’s: 
Refer: Chapter 3 (3.17 to 3.19) – also 1.18 Chapter 1. 
 
These sections propose specific exemption of Kāinga Ora from interest deductibility as it 
is not a registered community housing provider covered under section CW 42B of the 
Income Tax Act and is not a charity. 3.18 rightfully identifies that many registered 
community housing providers are charities and therefore exempt from income tax. Also, 
that other community housing providers may be exempt under section CW 42B of the 
Income Tax Act 2007. 
 
Te Āhuru Mōwai agrees with the exemption of Kāinga Ora and its wholly owned 
subsidiaries from the interest limitation rules and submits that this exemption also applies 
to registered community housing providers. This is for the following reasons: 

 

  •  Registered community housing providers (CHP’s)currently supply the same 
services as Kāinga Ora – primarily placement of applicants from the 
government’s Public Housing Register as tenants. They also provide newly 
developed properties for use as rental public housing. As is the case for Kāinga 
Ora, CHPs are bound by agreements with government for the provision of these 
services. It is highly desirable to align treatment of entities undertaking the same 
role.  
•  Both Kāinga Ora and CHP’s want to create harmonious iwi/hapu and 
communities that are free of detrimental social impacts resulting from 
concentration of deprivation. This can result in some acquisition, development, 
and provision of housing for people at slightly higher levels of income to create 
mixed tenure communities. Mixed tenure communities help establish bet er 
education and services infrastructure to those that most need them and set 
examples of independent and contributory living for all to aspire to. The income 
resulting from such arrangements may breach the current thresholds for eligibility 
for Exempt Income in CW 42B of the tax act. It is desirable to at least enable 
interest deductibility to not further disincentivise these initiatives to improve social 
cohesion. 
•  Overseas, and potentially in New Zealand in the future, mixed tenure housing has 
also been financially beneficial as an enabler of more social housing through 
deliberate cost subsidy (either from market sales or market rentals to subsidise 
discounted rentals for disadvantaged household). There are good examples of 
this in Australia and Britain. An arrangement of cross subsidy to foster social 
benefit could also potentially place a CHP more than CW 42B thresholds. Again, 
it is desirable to at least enable interest deductibility to not further disincentivise 
innovative approaches to making more social housing financially viable. 
The last two points are particularly relevant to ensuring the regulatory changes proposed 
will be future proofed. 
 
2.  Short Stay Accommodation Carve-Outs to Include Emergency & 
Transitional Housing: 
Refer: Chapter 2:  2.82 
 
Section 2.82 and the question box below it, prompt for feedback on desirability for carve-
outs for short term housing and on categories of short-term housing that are not likely to 
subsequently become long term housing. 
 
Te Āhuru Mōwai submits that it is desirable to treat short term housing separately from 
long term housing and agrees that this should only occur when substitutability is unlikely. 
In this context, it would seem reasonable to include emergency and transitional housing 
as it is intrinsically dif erent to long term housing, typically being of smaller floor area 
and/or more temporary construction. These homes are intended to provide temporary 
accommodation (typically 6-week stints) for households with few possessions. Examples 
of housing types are cabins, tiny houses, and former motel units.  
 
It is acknowledged that, currently, CW 42B wil  likely provide tax-free status for providers 
of emergency and transitional housing. However, the market may shift faster than the 
adjustment of thresholds applying to CW 42B, and making this provision helps in future-
proof against the unfortunate consequences if this happened. 

 

 
3.  New Build to Include Upgrade of Homes to Make Habitable: 
Refer: Chapter 7:  Questions for submit ers (p76) 
 
The discussions document asks whether there is some tool that could be used to identify 
when a dwelling that is completely uninhabitable has been improved significantly, such 
that it has added to housing supply? 
 
Te Āhuru Mōwai submits that it is desirable to include upgrade of homes to make 
habitable as part of the definition of new build, as it is effectively new supply. A 
suggested tool for this is compliance with the Housing Improvements Regulations which 
set some fundamental minimum standards for a dwelling. These include minimum room 
sizes, essential plumbing fit ings etc. 
 
 
 
C. CLARIFICATION AND FURTHER FEEDBACK: 
 
Te Āhuru Mōwai would welcome the opportunity to make a verbal submission in support of 
the above. 
 
For information on, or clarification of, the above please contact: 
s9(2)(a)
 
 
 
 
   
  
 
 
 

 

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Date:
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Attachments:
Marutuahu Ropu Submission.pdf
Tena koe
Submission attached.
Nga mihi
s9(2)(a)


 
INTEREST DEDUCTIBILITY CONSULTATION – MARUTŪĀHU RŌPŪ SUBMISSION 
The Marutūāhu Rōpū makes this submission: 
  As  mana  whenua  of  Tāmaki  Makaurau,  where  housing  pressures  are  acute  and  home 
ownership is now a distant prospect for many whānau who rent. 
 
  As  an  established  investor  in  build-to-rent  (among  other  scale  housing  development 
projects), where it is apparent that much more can and should be done to attract patient 
capital and establish the sector as a bulwark against the current fragmented and hobbyist 
‘mum  and  dad’  rental market,  to  al eviate  pressures  through  supply  and  to  provide  an 
attractive alternative to home ownership.  
The  government  needs to  deliberately  ‘tilt’ the playing field towards investment in build-to-
rent.  It should introduce a general exemption for these properties, and seek to apply that 
exemption as broadly as possible.  The risk that there wil  be some seeking interest deductions 
whose projects do not squarely meet the policy intent, are well outweighed by the benefits of 
providing confidence and certainty to the sector.  The chal enges in adequately defining this 
asset  class  justifies  any  reluctance  to  implement  this  as  an  exemption.    There  are  useable 
international examples.  
These  exemptions  should  be  permanent  for  initial  and  subsequent  owners,  given  the 
importance of maintaining value in these properties to make them attractive to investors.  To 
state the obvious, even if the properties are never sold, their saleability wil  have a significant 
impact on their ability to attract finance.  
The rationale that should be applied, given the current crisis in housing, is that the government 
should be making the decisions that wil  do the most to increase investment in this sector and 
asset class.  Further, there is no fair rationale to treat the “main home” which is exempted from 
the new rules, differently from build-to-rent properties. Build-to-rent properties provide the same 
benefits as a homeowner’s “main home”, by functioning as a permanent dwelling for a person 
or family, and so should receive the same tax treatment.  To argue otherwise, is to lock in a 
further disadvantage for tenants, who are among those who wil  bear the higher cost of rental 
properties. 
We also support a permanent exemption from the proposed interest limitation rules for new 
builds,  and  for  any  subsequent  owners,  as  well  as  the  proposed  exemption  for  property 
developers.   
s9(2)(b)(ii)
 
 but the government needs to get its settings right.   


 
The Crown is obliged to consider the Treaty implications of tax policies that have the potential 
to create new obstacles to iwi seeking to exercise their rights – provided in Treaty settlements 
- to acquire exorbitantly priced Crown properties.  The cents in the dollar the Crown provides 
in redress are a drop in the ocean in our urban areas.  However, these proposals mean that 
whenever iwi must borrow to acquire land – including land the Crown has acknowledged was 
improperly taken – we are, once again, disadvantaged compared with those who have an 
established asset base. 
 
We also support depreciation and GST  ‘carve outs’ in this context for  Marutūāhu as  Treaty 
Partner and Treaty settlement PSGE.  

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From:
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To:
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Subject:
Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright- line rules
Date:
Friday, 16 July 2021 3:53:34 PM
To whom this may concern,
- I disagree with the propose interest limitation rules
- Capital account property holders who are caught with the taxable sale should be able
to deduct interest for the whole period of ownership in the year of sale
- Date of commencement for new build should be the earliest date possible in the
process of developing, and I suggest from date the existing tenant moves out.
- Rollover relief should be included and should be broadened to include LTC elections
and all related party transfers, including share transfers.  This should also be back dated
to 29/3/18
OVERALL – I disagree with the proposed interest limitation rules.  It does nothing to
help with the supply of housing, and does nothing to achieve one of the governments
key housing objectives, which is to ensure “affordable home to call their own”.  I believe
rents will increase over time as more existing rentals are sold to personal house owners.
CAPITAL ACCOUNT PROPERTY HOLDERS – If a long term hold rental property is sold,
and is caught by the brightline rules or other taxing provisions, then interest should be
fully deductible in the year of sale.  The long term hold investor is already paying a large
amount of tax if the sale is taxable, and if interest was not an allowable deduction, tax
would then be at an unreasonable level and would severely penalize the property
owner.   If interest was not deductible for a taxable sale, it could see an owner paying
more tax then the gain they made.  
DATE OF COMMENCEMENT FOR NEW BUILDS–  Interest deductions should be allowed
from when the tenant moves out from the old property.  This should be the first stage in
an older rental property becoming a new build.  Or the interest should be allowable
from when the older property is demolished.
ROLLOVER RELIEF   I agree that there needs to be rollover relief now that Brightline has
been extended to 5 and then 10 years.  This should cover all related party transactions,
and the following should receive rollover relief
- Becoming an LTC should also be excluded from a brightline sale, as becoming an LTC
can simplify ownership for a Company and reduce unnecessary compliance costs.
- Sole trader or partnership to LTC, Trust, Company or LP
- LTC share changes, between related parties, including to Trusts and between
individuals
Roll over relief should also be back dated to 29/3/18 as there are a lot of rental property
owners who unintentional have been caught by these very complicated rules
MAKE IT SIMPLE – 143 page of discussion document, shows that these rules are already
too complicated and will be an unfair burden on taxpayers to comply with the rules.
 The new rules need to be simple and easy for all to follow.

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Subject:
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 - Interest deductibility submission
Date:
Friday, 16 July 2021 5:26:39 PM
Attachments:
TROTR Submission - draft copy.docx

Please see attached. 
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Government Discussion Document 
Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 
 
Submission 
 
from 
Te Rūnanga o Toa Rangatira 
 
 
 
 
 
A. Te Rūnanga o Toa Rangatira: 
 
Te Rūnanga O Toa Rangatira Incorporated (the Rūnanga) is a non-profit incorporated society 
with charitable status and was established in 1990, when the Government of the day sought 
to disestablish The Ministry of Māori Af airs and devolve responsibility to tribal entities and iwi.  
 
The Rūnanga is the mandated iwi authority for Ngāti Toa Rangatira and is the administrative 
body of iwi estates and assets. To this end, as an organisation, it manages all political and 
public interests on behalf of Ngāti Toa Rangatira and it is the Corporate Trustee of the Treaty 
settlement entity, the Toa Rangatira Trust (a tax paying Maori Authority). 
 
The Toa Rangatira Trust holds all assets eminating from Treaty settlements with the Crown. 
 
The Rūnanga deals with the political and public issues of national interest such as Treaty of 
Waitangi  claims,  commercial  and  customary  fisheries,  health  services  including  primary 
mental health and residential care services, local government relationships and resource and 
environmental management.   
 
The  Rūnanga  thanks  the  Government  for  the  opportunity  to  review  and  comment  on  this 
Discussion Paper, and for extending the time to provide a submission.  
 
 
B. POINTS OF SUBMISSION: 
 
1.  Exempt All Mandated Iwi Entities: 
Refer: Chapter 2, Maori collectively-owned land (p31). 
 
Chapter 2 of the Discussion Paper seeks feedback on whether and how Maori housing 
should be carved-out and exempted from the removal of interest deductions from taxable 
income. 
 
The  Rununga  submits  that  the  carve  out  should  apply  to  the  housing  interests  of  all 
Mandated Iwi Entities including Maori Authorities, that are recognised in the Crown Treaty 

 

Settlement  process,  rather  than  simply  selecting  out  specific  housing  types  on  Maori 
collectively-owned land. The reasons for this are: 
•  It  otherwise  compromises  the  financial  settlement  arrangements  reached  with  iwi 
during Waitangi Treaty settlement processes. If implemented, it would be a punitive 
measure that would cast a shadow on the  Crown’s (belated) measures to address the 
issues of associated with iwi entities loss of economic sovereignty. 
•  The proposed changes are to address an issue that is not relevant to the provision of 
housing by Mandated Iwi Entities, who have minimal, or no, influence or involvement 
in tax shelter arrangements in the housing investment market. 
•  In Ngati Toa Rangatira’s (and possibly other Iwi entities case) the overwhelming nature 
of land held is in normal freehold title, not in Maori Freehold, or collectively-owned land. 
  The Mandated Iwi Entities, must include Maori Authorities, who do pay tax.  Maori 
Authorites should be included among the exempted entities nominated in Chapter 3 of the 
Discussion Paper. 
 
We further note that seeking to extend the deductiblity benefits of interest that Kaianga 
Ora Housing NZ have, solely to registered CHP’s like Te Āhuru Mōwai, or Charities, limits 
the  sovereign  decisions of Iwi  on  how  they  wish  to  receive  and  hold  assets,  including 
Residential Properties or Residential Land.  
 
Forcing Iwi and other entities to shift assets to Charities or CHP’s may therefore exclude 
the reasonable private ownership aspirations of individual Iwi members with the assistance 
of their Iwi organisations. 
 
2.  Support for Submission from Te Āhuru Mōwai: 
 
The Rununga supports the submission made on the Discussion Paper by Te Āhuru Mōwai, 
which is a Registered Community Housing Provider wholly owned by Te Rūnanga O Toa 
Rangatira Incorporated. 
 
However, we note that Te Āhuru Mōwai and CHP’s can only offer solutions to a subset of 
Iwi members: those that meet the MHUD IRRS af ordability tests.  
 
This is why from a tino Rangatira tanga and mana motuhake perspective, Mandated Iwi 
entities, including Iwi  Authorities, must be broadened in the entity definition, otherwise the 
Crown  is  simply  prescribing  to  sovereign  democratic  entities  how  they  must  structure 
themselves,  or  in  the  alternate,  it  must  accept  that  some  Iwi  members  must  be 
discriminated  against  if  they  aspire  to  shared  equity  homeownership  with  their  Maori 
Authority. Simply stated neither option is acceptable.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

C. CLARIFICATION AND FURTHER FEEDBACK: 
 
The Rununga would welcome the opportunity to make a verbal submission in support of the 
above. 
 
For information on, or clarification of, the above please contact: 
s9(2)(a)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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From:
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To:
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Subject:
Deduction of interest on residential property investments.
Date:
Sunday, 18 July 2021 12:22:54 PM
Deduction of interest is a legitimate business expense ! It is wrong that this government
should single out residential property investors to not allow this. I also believe it is against
the Bill of Rights  Act to single out & persecute  any group of people.
The problem with housing is lack of supply, which Labour has failed miserably to 
 fix having only built a fraction of the houses promised. 
This government continues to bring in ad hoc laws without any idea of the result or cost.
We have seen so many resets which have achieved nothing. House prices are still rising.
Property investors should be encouraged not persecuted, who else is going to provide all
the necessary housing needed?
 Labour because they have the numbers are making this country like a police state,pushing
through laws for which they have no mandate & sometimes have been illegal.
 This has got to stop.
Regards
s9(2)(a)

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Subject:
DESIGN OF THE INTEREST LIMITATION RULE AND ADDITIONAL " BRIGHT-LINE RULES"
Date:
Tuesday, 13 July 2021 2:08:39 PM
Dear Sir
We are not convinced that the implementation of the interest deductibility rules in respect to residential property will
assist in relation to the New Zealand housing market.  It is our opinion that the market is under supplied and given that
there is an availability of cheap money the cost of housing in New Zealand will continue to increase in the short term. 
These measures will add to the compliance costs of small investors and also add extreme complexity to an area that
should be relatively simple to administer.  Records will need to now be kept for at least ten years in respect of residential
property and given the interaction of these rules and the brightline test, small investors will more than likely be edged
out of the market and replaced by developers.  It is also our opinion that it is unlikely that first home buyers will be able
to buy new plots of land to purchase and utilise for their first home.  It is more than likely that the developers will be buy
these and develop these properties and sell them as part of their business activity.  The new rules of course will not
impact on these persons.
Given the complexity of these rules and that they apply from 1st October and that there is no legislation and the time
limit for reviewing a lengthy discussion document, we suggest that these rules are delayed and implemented from the
1st April 2022. 
We are concerned that these rules effectively make residential property investment taxed at what is effectively turnover,
being the only type of investment that are, and also taxing any capital gain if in the worst case scenario are sold within
ten years.  We do not see that either of these measures will improve housing affordability in New Zealand.  As we have
stated above given that these rules are more than likely to be implemented as set out in the discussion document, our
comments are made to make the application of these rules more clear and easier for compliance purposes. 
It is good to see land outside New Zealand has been excluded and the list of exclusions seems to be reasonable.  We do
note that short term accommodation is to be included.  We believe that there should be an availability where someone
is providing short term accommodation to have any interest costs apportioned.  We are pleased to see that all type of
developers will be exempted from the proposed interest limitation rules and these will include one off developments.   
The new build definition does appear to be particularly complex and if this was a real concession in respect of making
housing affordable and to increase the stock of properties the five year brightline test should not apply in any case. 
In respect of new builds, early owners rules could be extended to an 18 month period instead of 12 months to give a
further concession to help increase the stock of new housing.  We are pleased to see the consideration of the roll over
relief for brightline test and interest deductibility could be part of “cost” of the property and relief may be given in
respect of all trusts where there is no significant change in ownership.  These rules need to be made simple and clear.
In respect of properties sold under the brightline test, we believe that interest should be allowed as a deduction against
any profit made.  We feel that having an interest deduction allowable in full is appropriate however do understand the
government’s concern that where a loss would incur it may be simpler to just allow the situation if a loss does incur, a
break even position.
In respect of the loss ring fencing rules, we consider that these should be removed and given that it is unlikely that losses
will incur in respect of residential property, although we do concede the possibility that this could occur in respect of
new builds, however consider that these losses should be made available as these new builds will increase the stocks of
housing in New Zealand.
In addition dual purpose properties residential/commercial should be subject to a simple apportionment of interest, if a
interest deduction is to be denied in this circumstance, it should not be an all or nothing test.
We are happy to discuss any of these matters further.
Kind regards,
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From:
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To:
Policy Webmaster
2)
Subject:
Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules
(a)
Date:
Tuesday, 13 July 2021 2:42:11 PM
Dear IRD,
My wife and I are long term property investors who started
investing s9(2)(a)
.
We have purchased every one of our properties off the plan, not competing with
first home buyers, with the intention of running a rental business and provide
vital accommodation for the people that the Government cannot fulfil.
We have carried the financial risks by paying and servicing the deposit,
occasionally for up to three years due to construction delays, hoping we
would not lose a job to be able to settle the property. 
We have paid mortgages on vacant properties until they were rented and
always did timely maintenance as part of running our rental business and
being a good landlord. Most people do not realise what is involved in
property investment and the financial risks and stress that landlords carry.
Then the Labour Government announces  that the loan interest will no
longer be considered an expense. This is not fair and short-sighted.
The following points are for your consideration:
the proposed changes go against Treasure and your own (IRD) advice
the proposed changes should not apply retrospectively
the proposed changes should apply only to any existing properties
purchased from March 2021
the proposed changes should not apply to any new builds purchased in
the last 15 years if the original owner still owns (new build definition)
the proposed changes should account for investor types (i.e. new build
investors, existing property investors, speculators)
investors, like us, who invested exclusively into new builds should be
exempt from the proposed changes
rental business category should introduced and any landlord registered
as a business should be able to claim interest as an expense as it is
available for any other business. 
Brightline test for new builds (from March 2021) reduced to 2 years so
the properties can be released into the market sooner
Brightline test for existing rental properties reduced to 5 years so the
properties can be released into the market sooner

Thank you for your consideration.
s9(2)(a)

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From:
s9(2)(a)
To:
Policy Webmaster
Cc:
s9(2)(a)
Subject:
Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules
Date:
Saturday, 10 July 2021 11:54:21 PM
Dear bureaucrats,
My name is s9(2)(a)
 I’m a s9(2)(a)
 who owns a rental 
property but at the same time sharing a flat s9(2)(a)
. I have been a tenant for a 
long time. I’ve worked hard and had some support from my family to get a first home in 
2006. I rent this house out last year as I move to s9(2)(a)
 flat. As a tenant for a long 
time my self. I see this rental property as a home for someone to feel healthy to live in. 
I’m excited to see the law of healthy home for all rental properties. I’ve experienced in 
living in a poor insulated home and getting sick from it. Therefore, I ensure my rental 
property meet the healthy home rules and charge affordable rents. The current tenant is 
s9(2)(a)
 
I would like to suggest to remain the ability to claim mortgage interests as a cost for all 
rental properties. Reasons are below:
1. All other businesses are able to deduct mortgage interests as a cost. Rental property
should be treated the same.
2. As the change of deductibility for interest cost, landlord can only interest rental fee or
sale the property as no business can survive on a negative income.
3. Most people rent before they buy their first home. High rental fee will only put first
home buyer at a disadvantage to save up money.
I’m not a expert in tax or investment. I can only speak for myself. If I can’t claim the 
mortgage interest as a cost for my rental property. I have to increase rent for my tenant 
which I’m really reluctant to do so for my tenants. The other option will be to sell this 
house as I cannot afford to keep this rental property with negative cash flow. This will 
also increase the rents for rental properties as less rental houses available. I have this 
rental property to hope that I can save up some retirement funds for myself and s9  
s9(2)(a) which will require less help from the government when we are s9(2)(a) (2  
)
(a)
Thank for reading this and I hope that you would reconsider of allowing mortgage 
interest cost as a cost for rental properties which is same as other business.

Warm Regards 
s9(2)(a)

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From:
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To:
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Subject:
RE: Possibility for extension: Interest limitation rule submissions
Date:
Monday, 19 July 2021 4:16:54 PM
Attachments:
s 9(2)(b)(ii)
Kia ora Wendy
Thanks very much.  Please find attached our brief submissions.
Noho ora mai
s9(2)(a)
Chapman Tripp
s9(2)(a)
www.chapmantripp.com
From: Policy Webmaster <[email address]> 
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2021 1:43 PM
To: s9(2)(a)
Subject: RE: Possibility for extension: Interest limitation rule submissions
[IN CONFIDENCE RELEASE EXTERNAL]
Hi s9(2)(a)
Apologies for the delay in replying. Yes it has been very busy and now we are having to
work from home due to the building being closed!
We are still processing the submissions received therefore Monday should be fine.
Have a good weekend.
Regards
Wendy Watkin | Policy Webmaster | Kaitiaki pae tukutuku kaupapa
Policy and Regulatory Stewardship | Kaupapa me te Tiaki i ngā Ture
Inland Revenue | Te Tari Taake
s9(2)(a)
 www.taxpolicy.ird.govt.nz
From: s9(2)(a)
 
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2021 11:24 AM
To: Policy Webmaster <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Possibility for extension: Interest limitation rule submissions
Kia ora anō

Appreciate you’re busy!  I haven’t had a reply yet but can confirm our submissions will
be very brief, and expect this should be fine by Monday (although we’ll aim to get them
across ASAP).
 
Thanks
s9(2)(a)
 
From: s9(2)(a)
 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 July 2021 4:20 PM
To: Policy Webmaster <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Possibility for extension: Interest limitation rule submissions
 
Tēnā koe
 
Would it be possible for us to provide a very short submission by next Monday 19 July
and have it considered?
 
Apologies, I realise that the team working on the interest limitation proposals will
already be working through submissions.
 
Thanks
s9(2)(a)
 
 
From: Policy Webmaster <[email address]
Sent: Saturday, 10 July 2021 5:14 PM
To: s9(2)(a)
Subject: RE: Possibility for extension: Interest limitation rule submissions
 
[IN CONFIDENCE RELEASE EXTERNAL]
 
Hi s9(2)(a)
 
We are happy to advise that we can extend the submission deadline to Friday 16 July
2021.
 
Regards.
 
Policy Webmaster
Policy and Regulatory Stewardship
Inland Revenue
 
From: s9(2)(a)
 
Sent: Friday, 9 July 2021 7:44 AM
To: Policy Webmaster <[email address]>
Subject: Possibility for extension: Interest limitation rule submissions
 
Kia ora
 
We are in the process of preparing a brief set of submissions on the discussion
document:  “Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules”.
 
It’s possible we won’t be able to provide our submissions by 12 July 2021.  Could I
please check whether our submissions could still be considered if they were provided
after 12 July?
 

Thanks
s9(2)(a)
Chapman Tripp
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Submissions on design of the 
interest limitation rule 
19/07/2021 
 


 
Hei Wāhi – Introduction 
We welcome the opportunity to submit on the Government discussion document “Design of 
the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules” (the Discussion Document).  We 
have particular concerns about how the design of the interest limitation rules could impact 
Māori collectively-owned land, and set out our submissions briefly below. 
Ngā tāpaetanga — Submissions 
In summary: 
  We suggest that papakāinga housing and similar activities should have a 
carveout from the proposed interest denial rules, on the basis these activities do 
not compete with general owner-occupied housing (particularly when the 
papakāinga housing is on Māori land). 
  Any entity that is eligible to be a Māori authority for income tax purposes (and 
their wholly-owned subsidiaries) should receive the same concessions currently 
proposed for widely-held companies, on the basis these entities will represent 
collective groups, whether or not they technically meet the definition of a close 
company.  Companies and trusts are broadly eligible to be Māori authorities 
where they: 
o  are established by, or hold land that is subject to, Te Ture Whenua Māori 
Act 1993; 
o  are recognised as a mandated iwi organisation under the Māori Fisheries 
Act 2004, or are themselves established by a mandated iwi organisation; 
or 
o  they receive assets from the Crown as part of a settlement of a claim 
under the Treaty of Waitangi (and are contemplated by the relevant deed 
of settlement as doing so). 
  Interest denials should not apply to the owners of freehold property who make 
ground leases where: 
o  there is a ground lease for a sufficiently long term; and 
o  there is a registered leasehold interest that can be bought/sold by 
leaseholders (to whom the interest limitation rules may apply, if 
applicable). 
  Land which is not subject to interest denial rules (e.g. papakāinga housing and 
excluded ground leases) should not be included when determining whether a 
widely-held entity holds more than 50% residential investment property. 
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you wish to discuss any aspect of our submissions.  
Our contacts are: 
s9(2)(a)
 
Submissions on design of the interest limitation rule – 9 July 2021 – 2 



 
 
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From:
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To:
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Cc:
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Subject:
Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules
Date:
Monday, 19 July 2021 2:45:47 PM
Attachments:
Submission_Interest deductibility_FINAL.pdf
Hello,
I hope this finds you well, and thank you for the brief extension provided in relation to our
submission.
Please find attached our submission on the design of the interest limitation rule and additional
bright-line rules.
If you have any questions in relation to our submission, please feel free to contact myself, or
s9(2)(a)
 (cc’d above).
Kind regards,
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Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line tests  
19 July 2021
C/- Deputy Commissioner, Policy and Regulatory Stewardship  
Inland Revenue Department  
P O Box 2198  
Wellington 6140  
By email: [email address] 
Dear Sir / Madam 
Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules: EY 
submission 

We refer to the Government discussion document Design of the interest limitation rule and additional 
bright-line rules

We are grateful for the opportunity to comment and set out our 
submission below.  
All legislative references are to the Income Tax Act 2007, unless otherwise stated. 
Overall comments 
In our view, the proposed interest limitation rules are a significant departure from the established norms 
of the New Zealand tax policy framework and should not be adopted. The document refers to the 
proposals being necessary to reduce a tax advantage for property investors who can claim full interest 
deductions, while income from capital gains is often not taxed. However, currently property investors are 
treated the same as other taxpayers in business who are generally entitled to deductions for interest 
expenses relating to their business. We consider that the proposals go against long-held principles of 
our tax system and that the better approach would be to focus on increasing the supply of housing stock 
in New Zealand.  
Notwithstanding this, we accept that the Government has made the decision to proceed with the interest 
limitation rules. In designing the rules, some arbitrary boundaries wil  need to be drawn. For example, it 
will be necessary to decide 
for how long a property 
should remain a new build. On that basis, our submission seeks to balance the difficult task of designing 
rules that do not fit well 
eed for clear boundaries. 
Ultimately, we consider that the proposals should aim to design clear rules which provide certainty for 
taxpayers and minimise complexity and compliance costs.  
Rather than answering each of the questions posed in the document, we have focused our submission 
on what we consider to be the key issues in the design of the rules. The fact that we have not 
commented on certain aspects of the document should not be taken to mean that we agree/disagree 
with what is being proposed. 


Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 
EY submission 
Executive summary 
We set out a brief summary of our key recommendations below: 
Application of the rules to property acquired before 27 March 2021 
We recommend caution in changing tax rules that fundamentally and deliberately alter the 
economics of transactions that have already occurred. The Government may wish to consider 
limiting the application of the proposed interest limitation rules to future transactions only, as 
this is the commonly adopted approach in cases where a specific intervention is made in 
respect of existing transactions. 
Interest allocation 
We agree with the proposed approach of relying on tracing to determine which interest 
expenses are deductible, except in cases where it would be impractical (such as loans that 
transition between the old and new regimes).  
In relation to pre-27 March loans that cannot be traced, we submit that stacking should be 
adopted. 
For the issues posed by commonly offered loan products such as revolving credit facilities, we 
submit that the high water mark proposal is overly complex and is likely to result in high 
compliance costs. 
Disposal of property subject to interest limitation 
We strongly oppose Option A in respect of property disposals; under which interest deductions 
would be permanently denied in all circumstances. Disal owing a deduction for interest at the 
time of sale in cases where the gain on sale is taxed on revenue account would be a 
fundamental departure from well settled tax concepts and negatively impact the integrity of the 
tax system. 
Accordingly, for revenue account sales we submit that interest deductions should be allowed in 
full at the time of sale (Option B).  
Alternatively, should the risk of arbitrage be considered too great to allow Option B to be 
adopted, our next preference is for interest deductions to be al owed at the time of sale, with 
any loss on sale ring-fenced to other residential property income (Option D). However, should 
Option D be adopted, we also submit that in order to ensure consistency, real property gains 
would also need to be ringfenced and taxed at their own lower marginal tax rate. 
In cases where property is sold on capital account, we submit that interest deductions should 
be al owed to the extent that the amount of interest incurred exceeds the non-taxable capital 
gain on sale (Option F). In other words, interest deductions are first applied against the non-
taxable capital gain. 


Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 
EY submission 
We submit that introducing anti-arbitrage rules alongside the interest deductibility proposals is 
unnecessary when the impact of the rules on taxpayer behaviour is not yet known. Should it be 
considered necessary to address arbitrage issues in the future, we submit that this should be 
done via the use of section EL 20.  
New builds  
The definition of  new build  should include uninhabitable homes that have been brought up to 
a habitable standard, with specific conditions. 
The Government should consider 
results in a disincentive to increase the residential capacity of existing properties by way of 
adding additional bedrooms to the property.   
The new build period should apply in perpetuity for the builder/developer of the new build, and 
for the first subsequent purchaser of the new build. This approach balances the need to ensure 
the proposed interest limitation rules do not disincentive new builds, with the likely evidential 
and compliance cost issues which would arise should no limit be placed on the number of 
subsequent purchasers a new build property can have. Allowing multiple subsequent 
purchasers to retain new build status would result in the risk of creating a dual market.
Our proposed approach for the new build period noted above would also ensure stability in the 
build-to-rent market.
Rollover relief 
The rollover relief proposed in Chapter 10 of the discussion document, both for the bright-line 
test and proposed interest limitation rules, is too narrow and needs to be reconsidered in 
favour of more expansive relief. 
We consider that more effective rollover relief could be designed in a way that is coherent, 
principled, administratively workable and which preserves the integrity of the tax system. 
Rental loss ring-fencing rules 
The current rental loss ring-fencing rules should be repealed as the policy rationale for these 
rules is superseded by the proposed interest limitation rules.  
Mixed-use residential property  
We submit that it would be inappropriate for the mixed-use residential property rules to apply in 
cases where the interest limitation rules also apply. Requiring taxpayers to apply both regimes 
will result in 
yers 
Our full analysis can be found in the Appendix below.  


Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 
EY submission 
We welcome the opportunity for a more detailed discussion with you on any of the matters raised in our 
submission. Please contact s9(2)(a)
 in the first instance in that 
regard.  
s9(2)(a)
s9(2)(a)
       
       


Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 
EY submission 
Appendix

Chapter 1   Overview of proposals and process 
1.1 
In relation to residential investment property acquired before 27 March 2021, we accept that the 
Government has made the decision to apply the proposed interest limitation rules to such property 
subject to phasing. However, we recommend caution when changing tax rules that fundamentally 
and deliberately alter the economics of transactions that have already occurred. Such changes 
create uncertainties in the market and may drive undesirable behaviours in the tax system. 
1.2 
The Government may wish to consider limiting the application of the proposed interest limitation 
rules to future transactions only, as this is the commonly adopted approach in cases where a 
specific intervention is made in respect of existing transactions.

Chapter 4   Interest allocation: how to identify which interest expenses are subject to 
limitation 

Pre-27 March loans that cannot be traced 
2.1 
As noted in the document, various issues may arise with tracing pre-27 March loans used to 
finance both residential and non-residential assets. As it was not necessary for borrowers to trace 
their borrowings when such loans were taken out, it is likely to be difficult or impossible for them to 
trace their borrowed funds retrospectively.
2.2 
The document sets out two options for addressing this issue: apportionment and stacking. In our 
view, stacking is preferable over apportionment. Allowing taxpayers to allocate their pre-27 March 
loans first to assets that are not residential investment properties removes the incentive for 
taxpayers to simply restructure their affairs to achieve the same outcome. We expect that if 
stacking is not adopted, many taxpayers wil  seek to restructure their affairs to achieve the same 
outcome. Adopting stacking will reduce unnecessary compliance costs and ensure that taxpayers 
without access to professional advice are not disadvantaged.  
2.3 
For completeness, we agree with the suggestion that stacking should be optional. In other words, 
where taxpayers have the ability to trace their pre-27 March loans, they should be free to apply 
tracing as opposed to stacking if they wish.
Issues caused by specific types of loans and high water mark proposal  
2.4 
We consider the high water mark proposal described from [4.33]   [4.40] of the document to be 
overly complex. We disagree with the proposition that the high water mark proposal would 
significantly lower compliance costs. The high water mark proposal is difficult to understand and 
may result in taxpayers needing to seek professional advice in order to understand and interpret 
the rules. As a result, we expect the complexity of the proposal is likely to result in high 
compliance costs on net.  
2.5 
The high water mark proposal seeks to address a temporary complexity arising from the proposed 
interest limitation rules during the phasing period for pre-27 March loans. The need for such a rule 
demonstrates the fact that the proposed interest limitation rules do not fit wel  with the rest of New 
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Chapter 5   Disposal of property subject to interest limitation 
Revenue account sales 
3.1 
In our view, it is essential to allow a deduction for interest at the time of sale in cases where the 
sale is on revenue account. We strongly oppose Option A, under which interest deductions would 
be permanently denied in al  circumstances (subject to the developer or new build exemptions). 
3.2 
Full denial would be a simplistic option and taxing all of the income from investing in a property 
without allowing an interest deduction would result in distortions under which property investors 
may be unfairly subject to higher effective tax rates. This may result in property investors being 
over-taxed relative to their income from the property. The tax system should not be used to create 
such a situation. Accordingly, we consider that interest deductions should be al owed in full at the 
point of sale and submit that Option B, outlined at [5.17]   [5.19] of the document, should be 
adopted. 
3.3 
Alternatively, should the Government consider that the risk of arbitrage is too great to al ow for 
Option B, our next preference is for Option D at [5.26] of the document. In other words, we 
consider it would be appropriate to al ow deductions at the point of sale, with any loss on sale 
ringfenced to other real property gains derived in the same or a later income year through the use 
of section EL 20. This option reduces the risk of arbitrage, while ensuring that any loss on sale is 
able to be offset against other real property gains under section EL 20.  
3.4 
However, we also submit that in order to ensure consistency, real property gains would also need 
to be ringfenced and taxed at their own lower marginal tax rate. Taxing capital gains that have 
accrued over time at the prevailing marginal tax rate while ringfencing losses on sale is 
inappropriate and results in horizontal inequity between different asset classes. 
Capital account sales 
3.5 
The document outlines options for interest deductions where property is sold on capital account. 
Of the options proposed, we prefer Option F which would allow a deduction of interest in excess of 
the untaxed capital gain on sale. In other words, interest deductions are first applied against the 
non-taxable capital gain. Adopting Option F for capital account sales is the least distortionary 
option and would be consistent with our preferred approach outlined above for revenue account 
sales. 
Arbitrage issues 
3.6 
We submit that it is not necessary to introduce anti-arbitrage rules alongside the interest 
deductibility proposals. The impact of the rules on taxpayer behaviour will not be known until the 
rules have been in place for a period of time and it should not be assumed that taxpayers will sell 
property within the bright-line period simply to obtain an interest deduction at the time of sale. The 
better option would be to revisit the need for anti-arbitrage measures after the new rules have 
been in effect for a period of time. 
3.7 
Should it be considered necessary to address arbitrage issues in the future once taxpayer 
behaviour is known, we submit that this should be done via the use of section EL 20. The 
document suggests either amending the bright-line anti-arbitrage rule (section EL 20) to treat the 
interest deductible on sale as if it were part of the cost of the property, or alternatively modifying 
the residential loss ring-fencing rules to incorporate anti-arbitrage provisions. Given our comments 


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section EL 20). 

Chapter 7   Definition of new build 
4.1 The 
definition 
of 
new build  should include uninhabitable properties that have been brought up to 
a habitable standard, resulting in an increase to total available dwellings 
Newly habitable dwel ings 
4.1.1  We submit that the document incorrectly weighs priorities on this particular issue. Practically, each 
uninhabitable dwelling occupies land that a habitable dwelling could otherwise occupy. To the 
extent that a developer wished to own a new build on that land, that developer would need to 
demolish the existing dwel ing. This may represent an increased cost, and therefore a disincentive 
for the productive use of land. Demolition of the building is also likely to result in additional waste 
going to landfill relative to a renovation. 
4.1.2  To the extent that the interest deduction rules are being introduced in recognition of the societal 
costs of low housing supply, it is necessary to weigh the cost of each un-renovated uninhabitable 
property against the cost of each permitted edge case. In our view, it is preferable that no 
disincentives exist for the re-development of under-utilised land.  
4.1.3  In our view, a renovated building should be entitled to new build status where: 
It has not been occupied within a specified number of years; or 
Where it had received official notice of its uninhabitability (for example, the property had been 
declared below earthquake safety requirements).  
4.1.4  These requirements should be relatively easy for Inland Revenue to verify and wil  capture almost 
al  presently uninhabitable dwellings.  
4.1.5  In relation to the second requirement noted above, this should apply only where the property is 
presently uninhabitable. In other words, it should not apply to properties that are currently 
habitable, but which may become uninhabitable if work such as leaky building remediation or 
earthquake strengthening is not carried out.  
Other impacts 
4.1.6 We 
habitable properties that are 
renovated to add further bedrooms to the same property. We suggest that the Government may 
wish to consider whether the proposals are framed in a way that unintentional y results in a 
disincentive to increase the residential capacity of existing properties by way of adding further 
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Chapter 8   Options for the length of the new build exemption
Who should the exemption apply to and how long for?
5.1 
We have considered the options for the length of the new build exemption and recognise that 
there are trade-offs in making this decision. On balance, we submit that the best option is for new 
build status to be limited to the builder/developer of the new build, and the first subsequent 
purchaser of the new build only. We believe that both the original builder/developer and the first 
subsequent purchaser should be entitled to retain new build status in perpetuity. 
5.2 
This approach balances the need to ensure that the proposed interest limitation rules do not 
disincentive new builds, with the likely evidential and compliance cost issues which would arise 
should no limit be placed on the number of subsequent purchasers a new build property can have. 
Allowing multiple subsequent purchasers to retain new build status would result in the risk of 
creating a dual market.  
Behavioural impact of these changes
5.3 
We expect that these changes wil  result in a behavioural shift of taxpayers towards setting up 
Officials should monitor the behaviour of taxpayers as 
this may create issues surrounding the use of losses of companies by owners who, if the sale 
were only the underlying property, would not be eligible to claim deductions.  
Impact on build-to-rent developers
5.4 
Our suggested approach for the length of the new build exemption outlined above will also ensure 
stability in the build-to-rent market. If our suggested approach is not adopted, there could be a 
significant impact on the build-to-rent market. We anticipate that the price and economics of build-
to-rent transactions may change significantly, causing housing supply to decrease rather than 
increase. 

Chapter 10   Rollover relief 
The proposed rollover relief needs to be expanded
6.1 
Chapter 10 of the document sets out proposed rollover relief for certain disposals that would 
otherwise result in the denial of interest deductions or the bright-line test applying. The document 
states that relief is intended to be provided where there is largely no change in the economic 
ownership of the land; it does not seek to address all possible structures.
6.2 
We strongly agree with the need to provide rollover relief and appreciate the effort the document 
makes in trying to define when such relief will be available. However, we submit that the proposed 
relief needs to be reconsidered with the view to al owing more expansive relief. The rollover relief 
currently proposed will in reality provide very limited relief as it will not encompass a large number 
of transactions. Many situations in which the economic ownership of the land remains largely the 
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The need for more expansive relief is particularly necessary in relation to the bright-line test. As 
noted in the document, the rollover relief that is currently available under the bright-line test was 
designed at a time when the bright-line period was significantly shorter. Accordingly, the need for 
extensive rol over relief was not as pertinent when the rules were first designed. The fact that the 
bright-line period has been extended from the original two-year period to five years and now ten 
years, has significantly increased the need for further rollover relief.
6.4 
Our key concerns include:
The document proposes to limit rol over relief for the bright-line test to situations where there 
is no consideration. This requirement is discussed briefly at [10.31] of the document, but few 
details are provided as to what is meant by a situation involving no consideration. In our view, 
very few situations wil  involve no consideration. We consider that the requirement of zero 
consideration should be removed, or at the very least that further guidance should be 
provided as to what is meant by this requirement. 
Paragraphs [10.7]   [10.9] of the document note that the Government is aware of other 
transactions in the context of family arrangements where rollover relief may be appropriate. 
However, the Government is not proposing work in this area until an undisclosed later date. 
We consider it is important to get the design of the rol over relief rules correct now. Failing to 
deal with all known issues now will exacerbate issues in the future.  
We also have a number of concerns in relation to the proposed rollover relief for trusts, set 
out below. 
Proposed rollover relief for trusts needs to be revisited 
6.5 Paragraph 
[10.55] 
proposes ful  rol over relief for 
family trusts in relation to settlements of residential land on trust
[10.57] goes on to 
impose three conditions that must be satisfied before relief is available. In our view, the condition 
requiring every settlor of the land to also be a beneficiary is excessive. For example, what about a 
family trust where two parents are the settlors, but the sole beneficiaries are their children? If it is 
considered necessary to limit relief to trusts set up for the benefit of the family of the principal 
settlor, we consider this could be achieved without requiring every settlor of the land to also be a 
beneficiary.
6.6 
The document recognises the requirements for obtaining rollover relief for settlements of 
residential land on trust may not be able to be satisfied by all family trusts in New Zealand. 
Paragraph [10.63] suggests that relief could instead be obtained by amending the trust deed prior 
to acquisition of the property, or by setting up a new (second) trust for the purposes of the 
disposal of residential property (provided the second trust is not set up for any tax avoidance 
purpose). In our view, this approach is flawed and would create unnecessary compliance costs. 
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We note the Government is considering rollover relief where land is disposed of from one trust to 
a different trust. Such relief is important, but [10.65] of the document states that the beneficiaries 
of the two trusts would need to be identical. We submit that the beneficiaries of the two trusts 
should not need to be identical for rol over relief to apply. Requiring the beneficiaries to be 
identical would limit relief to very few circumstances. For example, what about land disposed of 
from one trust to another, where the second trust has one or two additional beneficiaries to reflect 
further children of the trustees? Rollover relief should be available in such situations. 
6.8 
Finally, we understand there may be cases where the new Trusts Act 2019 requires a new trust to 
be established as opposed to being able to amend an existing trust. Where there are minor 
changes to beneficiaries (and potentially also trustees), the current proposals would not provide 
rollover relief. In our view, the implications of the new trust legislation should not result in tax 
issues. We understand there may be a subsequent project to look into this issue, however we 
consider this issue needs to be dealt with now rather than being deferred to a later date.  
6.9 
At a practical level, it is also necessary to consider whether Inland Revenue will need to change 
its current approach to issuing bright-line campaign letters. There are likely to be a number of 
cases where Inland Revenue is unaware that the disposal of property is one to which rollover 
relief applies.   
Rollover relief - conclusion
6.10  For the reasons outlined above, the scope of the rollover relief provisions proposed in the 
document needs to be reconsidered. In our view, the relief needs to be significantly more 
expansive to have any real impact. One option could be to provide relief for all disposals to 
concerned with avoidance, in our view 
any avoidance concerns could be appropriately dealt with under the general anti-avoidance 
provision in section BG 1, along with other currently existing specific anti-avoidance rules. 
6.11  We consider it is possible to design more effective rollover relief rules without negating the 
perceived benefits of the bright-line test and interest limitation proposals. In addition, more 
expansive relief could be designed in a way that is coherent, principled, administratively workable 
and which preserves the integrity of the tax system. As noted at [10.19] of the document, rollover 

Chapter 12   Implications for the rental loss ring-
7.1 
In our view, the various complexities caused by the interface of the RLR rules and the proposals, 
combined with the disincentives caused by the residual coverage of the RLR rules, justifies the 
repeal of the RLR rules altogether.  
7.2 As 
per 
[1.6] 
of 
Ring-fencing rental losses 
 issues paper (March 2018), the RLR rules 
were introduced to reduce the advantage investors received by having part of their mortgage 
costs subsidised by the reduced tax on their other taxable income. To the extent that the purpose 
of the RLR rules is to limit the benefit of deductions for interest payments, the current proposals 
extend that limitation further and interfere with the stated policy intentions of the document: 
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Where a residential property investor owns a dwelling that is not subject to the new build 
exemption, they lose the ability to deduct interest, preventing them from generating any losses 
that would otherwise need to be ring-fenced per the above rationale for the RLR rules. Here, 
the RLR rules serve no function.   
Where a residential property investor owns a dwelling that is subject to the new build 
exemption, the RLR rules reduce the benefits of the new build rules. Here, the RLR rules 
function to limit the marginal benefit of purchasing that new build over an existing property, 
decreasing the demand for new builds.  
7.3 
We note that the RLR rules do not just apply to losses generated by interest expenses. The rules 
also apply to other expenses, such as needed improvements to rental properties. In the absence 
of interest deductions for property investors, the RLR rules only function to limit losses generated 
by those additional expenses. As a result, the residual operation of the RLR rules operate only to 
disincentivise costs that should not be disincentivised in the context of New Ze
 property 
market. 

Chapter 13   Interest limitation and mixed-use residential property  
8.1 
The interaction of the proposed interest limitation rules with the existing mixed-use asset rules and 
the related complexities that arise are another clear example of why the proposed interest 
limitation rules do not fit well within the current tax system.  
8.2 
We consider it would be inappropriate for the mixed-use residential property rules to apply in 
cases where the interest limitation rules also apply. Requiring taxpayers to apply both regimes 
and deal with the resulting complexities is likely to drive errors and is inconsistent with Inland 
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SUMMARY
- I disagree with the propose interest limitation rules
- Capital account property holders who are caught with the taxable sale should be able
to deduct interest for the whole period of ownership in the year of sale
- Date of commencement for new build should be the earliest date possible in the
process of developing, and I suggest from date the existing tenant moves out.
- Rollover relief should be included and should be broadened to include LTC elections
and all related party transfers, including share transfers. This should also be back dated
to 29/3/18
OVERALL – I disagree with the proposed interest limitation rules. It does nothing to help 
with the supply of housing, and does nothing to achieve one of the governments key 
housing objectives, which is to ensure “affordable home to call their own”. I believe rents 
will increase over time as more existing rentals are sold to personal house owners.
CAPITAL ACCOUNT PROPERTY HOLDERS – If a long term hold rental property is sold, 
and is caught by the brightline rules or other taxing provisions, then interest should be 
fully deductible in the year of sale. The long term hold investor is already paying a large 
amount of tax if the sale is taxable, and if interest was not an allowable deduction, tax 
would then be at an unreasonable level and would severely penalize the property 
owner. If interest was not deductible for a taxable sale, it could see an owner paying 
more tax then the gain they made. 
DATE OF COMMENCEMENT FOR NEW BUILDS– Interest deductions should be allowed 
from when the tenant moves out from the old property. This should be the first stage in 
an older rental property becoming a new build. Or the interest should be allowable from 
when the older property is demolished.
ROLLOVER RELIEF I agree that there needs to be rollover relief now that Brightline has 
been extended to 5 and then 10 years. This should cover all related party transactions, 
and the following should receive rollover relief
- Becoming an LTC should also be excluded from a brightline sale, as becoming an LTC
can simplify ownership for a Company and reduce unnecessary compliance costs.
- Sole trader or partnership to LTC, Trust, Company or LP
- LTC share changes, between related parties, including to Trusts and between
individuals
Roll over relief should also be back dated to 29/3/18 as there are a lot of rental property 
owners who unintentional have been caught by these very complicated rules

MAKE IT SIMPLE – 143 page of discussion document, shows that these rules are already 
too complicated and will be an unfair burden on taxpayers to comply with the rules. The 
new rules need to be simple and easy for all to follow.


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Interest limitation Submission - Hāpai Housing & Ka Uruora.pdf
Kia ora,
Please the attached submission.
Ngā mihi,
s9(2)(a)


 
Submission on the Government discussion document on the design of the interest 
limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 
 
Recommendation Summary 
 

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 we are concerned that any changes to 
interest deductibility and bright-line rules may impact the viability of long-term BTR in New Zealand, 
and in particular whether there are the necessary incentives for sustainable Māori affordable 
housing outcomes.  
 
Discussed below, we make the following recommendations to help grow BTR in New Zealand – with 
a particular focus on the growth of a fair, efficient and transparent community and affordable 
housing sector, and better outcomes for Māori: 
 

The Government create an asset class that considers BTR as a commercial asset rather than 
residential. 

Existing overseas investment restrictions remain. It is our submission that there is more than 
sufficient iwi, institutional, and KiwiSaver capital available within New Zealand and no need 
to encourage international investment. 

Tax incentives for defined Māori BTR entities delivering affordable rentals. 

Specific exemptions apply to defined Māori BTR entities.  
 
Introduction – Hāpai Housing and Ka Uruora 
 
Hāpai Housing welcomes the opportunity to submit on the Government’s consultation document 
regarding the design of interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules. 
 
Hāpai Housing is a collective iwi inter-generational build to rent housing investor. Hāpai believes 
there is a growing issue of affordability in the rental market and thinks this is where the 
governments focus should be when considering legislative changes.    
 
Māori home ownership rates have declined to 26%, trailing non-Māori at 41%.  Māori are therefore 
disproportionately impacted by the poor quality and high cost of rental housing in Aotearoa – 
exacerbated by the relative lower incomes of Māori. Furthermore, there is a significant gap in 
affordability for Māori if you assume the accepted metrix that no more than 30% of household 
income should go towards housing costs. Nationally the median Māori Household income (for 
households that do not own their own home) can only afford 69% of the median rent, ie there is a 
31% gap. We think the government should use this opportunity to attempt to correct some of the 
inequality gap.   
 
Hāpai Housing is a limited partnership that is 100% owned, and controlled and invested in by iwi, 
whom all have Māori Authority or Charitable status. Investors are directly connected and 
accountable to their communities and focused on delivering solutions that produce strong social, 
cultural, and environmental outcomes. 
 
Hāpai Housing is established and resourced to deliver a significant pipeline of rental houses for the 
affordable market, focusing on priority of outcomes for whānau. However, the uncertainty of the 
interest limitation rule (particularly how long the exemption applies) and bright-line test (particularly 
where sold to Māori) will have a significant impact on our ability to successfully deliver new, safe, 
warm, dry, and affordable homes at pace and scale over the long-term.  

 
 
Ka Uruora Foundation is a collective iwi charitable housing trust that focuses on delivering a 
programme of funded housing solutions and services to support iwi whānau members achieve 
financial independence. Ka Uruora works with Hāpai and iwi commercial vehicles to facilitate the 
delivery of affordable housing continuum solutions to whānau. Ka Uruora supports this submission. 
 
It is our view that any policy setting aimed at curbing investors toward existing stock, should be 
tactically designed to promote new builds, and further incentivised to deliver Māori affordable 
housing outcomes. The below outlines proposals on how this can be achieved.  
 
Build-to-Rent Definition 
 
Hāpai Housing recommends a specific carve out for BTR developments that would ensure certainty 
to developers and future owners.  We recognise that currently there is no formal definition of BTR 
but believe this is important so policies can be structured around that definition.  We generally 
support the proposed Property Council New Zealand’s definition of BTR, but we believe there is 
strong validation for a carve-out for Māori BTR entities with regard to the required number of 
dwellings. There are several initiatives we are aware of, on both general title and Māori land, where 
the number of dwellings may be less than 10 and these should not be penalised.  
 
We propose that Māori BTR entities are defined as entities who have Māori Authority status or are 
Charitable Māori Trusts and includes entitities that look-through 100% to such entities for tax 
purposes (e.g. limited partnerships). 
 
We also share the view of the Property Council that BTR is more akin to a commercial asset or like 
student accommodation and retirement villages.  
 
Build-to-Rent GST & Depreciation Treatment 
 
Although, it is not directly mentioned in the Government’s discussion document we believe it is a 
good opportunity to consider the treatment of GST and depreciation in relation to BTR. 
 
We believe tax incentives for Māori affordable housing solutions, particularly GST and depreciation, 
should be explored. For Māori there is a significant gap in affordability, as outlined above, and we 
propose that one way of assisting to close the gap would be for Māori BTR entities providing 
affordable rentals to be able to claim GST on the development cost and operating costs (when GST 
registered counter-parties) while the rental income would continue to be exempt. If the housing was 
either sold or the purpose changed from affordable then GST would be required to returned on the 
value of the housing. We also note the Government recently restored depreciation for commercial 
and industrial buildings as a response to the economic impact of COVID-19.  We propose that BTR 
receives the same response. 
 
New Build Exemption 
 
In general, we support the Government’s proposed exemption for new builds. Although, there are 
several areas that need to be clarified.  
 
The discussion document states the Government is considering three options regarding who the 
exemption applies to, and for how long (clause 8.20).  These are: 
 
1.  In perpetuity for early owners; 

 
2.  In perpetuity for early owners and a fixed period for subsequent purchasers; and 
3.  For a fixed period for both early owners and subsequent purchasers 
 
We support Option 2 and think a 50-year fixed period on subsequent purchasers should apply.   
 
However, the subsequent purchaser restriction should be waived where the subsequent purchaser is 
Māori BTR entity. There can be situations where ownership may initially be in a collective vehicle but 
at a point down the track ownership is transferred to the mana whenua Iwi. This should not be 
penalised. 
 
New Build Bright-Line Test 
 
We support the Government’s proposed five-year bright-line test for new builds, as opposed to the 
general ten-year period. To further support Māori housing we suggest the Government waive the 
bright-line test completely on new build sales to Māori. This is particularly important to actively 
encourage progressive home ownership options to whānau.  The government should be doing all it 
can to remove housing barriers for Māori right across the housing continuum – including the 
pathway to home ownership.  The Hāpai strategy is for a whānau to have the choice of staying in the 
same home if they are ready to progress to ownership (partial or full).  
 
Conclusion 
 
Hāpai Housing supports the Government’s intentions to increase housing supply.  However, we are 
concerned that the proposed changes do not focus enough on Māori affordable housing outcomes. 
 
We support the governments initiatives, but with the following amendments: 
 
1.  A separate asset class be created for BTR that treats BTR as a commercial asset rather than 
residential. 
2.  Interest deductibility exemption to apply in perpetuity if same ownership. 
3.  Interest deductibility exemption to apply for 50 years to subsequent owners, but specifically 
waived if the subsequent owner is a Māori BTR entity. 
4.  Change in GST treatment for Māori BTR entities delivering affordable rentals.  
5.  Depreciation for BTR to match restored treatment of commercial property.  
6.  Waive the bright-line test for Māori BTR entities selling homes to Māori whānau 
 
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Date: 11 July 2021 at 10:38:22 PM NZST
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Subject: Submission from s9(2)(a)

Hello IRD
Please contact me on s9(2)(a)
 if you
have any questions.
Please find below my submission on various aspects of the discussion
document. 
STUDENT RENTALS
Any accommodation that has only housed students since
purchased and is within 1.5km (walking distance) of any educational
institution should be exempt.   Owners should provide proof that the
property has only ever been rented to students. This would ensure
students have available accommodation near universities and rents
can be kept at an affordable level for them.  Student accommodations
are generally already shabby,  increasing tax on landlords is only
going to result in less R&M and higher rents. 
The risk of everyone rushing out and turning their rentals into student
accommodation would be low in my opinion.  If the government
considers the risk high then consider the same could happen with
boarding houses. 
SHORT TERM ACCOMODATION
Airbnb is a business and dwellings used for full time Airbnb’s should
be exempt.  Under Auckland Council a full time Airbnb is subject
to 100% business rates.  It is unreasonable of the government and
local authority to call something a business for the purposes of

charging rates, but not a business for the purposes of tax. It should be
one or the other. Double taxing Airbnb operators as both a business
and as a residential rental is grossly unfair and would destroy the
ability of Airbnb operators to bring tourism into the suburbs and other
places not serviced by hotels.  Airbnb is a business and all expenses
including interest should be deductible.  
DEFINITION OF NEW BUILDS, and SUBSEQUENT
PURCHASERS
This really depends.  If the government decide to allow a new build to
be a new build for 20 years for example, then every house historically
should be allowed to be a new build for 20 years whether purchased
after the 27/3 or before the 27/3.  People who built prior to 27/3 and
added to the housing stock should not be penalised because of an
arbitrary date.  
If the governments want more houses built then it would make more
sense to remove interest deductibility to subsequent owners if
purchased outside the CCC period of 12 months.  Otherwise, we
would be back to the situation that we are in now with ‘greedy‘
investors hoarding all new build properties for 20 odd years and not
allowing FHB a look in.
Also, how silly would be if 15 years down the track my neighbour
who purchased on the 27/3/21 can still claim interest on his ‘new
build’ and I who purchased on the 26/3/21 cannot, even though our
properties are the same age. 
Whatever the government decide to do the tax system needs to be
fair, and currently its looking far from being fair.  Removing a
legitimate business expense for only one group of investors is
shocking.  Now the government is looking to create sub groups
within this one group to allow deductibility for some and not for
others.  This adds unnecessary complexity and undermines the
integrity of the whole tax system. If it is indeed a loophole, why
allow it to continue at all? 
INTEREST DEDUCTIBILITY ON SALE
I firmly believe that mortgage interest that wasn’t able to be deducted
should be deductible on sale when subject to the brightline tax.
 Otherwise, there is the likely scenario that people will be paying
huge taxes even if they have made no profit.  (Which is the case now
for some existing property investors!) 
NZ would not be a very nice place to live and invest in where there is
a good chance you are forced to pay tax on economic loss.
CHANGES TO BRIGHTLINE – SAME ECONOMIC

OWNERSHIP
I firmly believe that roll over relief should be permitted particularly
where owners are wanting to provide asset protection through the
transfer of property to family trusts.
MAIN HOME EXEMPTION
It is positive to see an exemption for interest to be claimed against
flatmate/boarder income in the main home. It does need to be
clarified whether this "main home" exemption follows the same
definition as the residential ringfencing exemption of 50% private
usage. If an individual has two flatmates in their home creating a
position in which the property is only 45% private, is the interest
exemption still available?  Generally, I believe it should be
apportioned as in home office usage.  Also, in the case of a family
trust where there are multiple beneficiaries.  Can each of these
beneficiaries live in a rental property (owned by the trust) and take in
flatmates/boarders and have interest deductible?  What about families
with uni age kids – can I put one of my kids in my rental property in
another city, have them take in flatmates and still have interest
deductible – can’t see why not if it is my child’s main home.   (See
my opinion on student rentals also above) 
RELOCATABLES and ADDING TO EXISTING LAND.
I think this is positive.  Allowing people to reuse what would
otherwise be tossed aside for accommodation is a positive step.  The
question would be, if I relocate my old house from the front of the
site to the rear and sell it, does it become a new build?  This would be
no different to someone else moving my house to another site, or me
buying someone else’s relocatable and putting it in my rear yard.
If I sell or demolish my house and build a new house and minor
 dwelling (home and income) – is the interest on all my mortgages
(original to buy original house & land, and new to build the new
house and flat) deductible? Or just the portion to build the new home
and income?  What about the portion for the land? 
If I sell or demolish my house and build 3 new townhouses – is the
original mortgage interest (to buy the existing house) deductible or
just the new mortgage to build the new houses, even though the
original house is gone and my new borrowings can be used to pay off
the original loan?
If the original mortgage interest is not deductible, can a portion of it
for the land that the new houses are being built on deductible? Eg.  I
have a large old house on a large section that I bought for 1mil 100%
mortgaged.  If I borrow another 1mil to build a new house in the rear
of my section obviously the new 1mil borrowing has deductible

interest but what about a portion of the original borrowing of 1mil
that was for front house and land. Assuming the house is old and
worth $0, can half the original mortgage for the land be attributed to
the new build and have interest deductible? Ie. 1.5mil is interest
deductible? And 0.5mil is not interest deductible? 
What a headache! 
Conclusion, I respect that changes needed to be done to curb house
prices.  However,  the strategy of this government (whom I have
generally supported) was to impose sudden death on those that have
invested in property to provide for themselves in retirement, to better
their family situation, to help their kids - or for a lot of FHB - who
bought a rental property in the provinces as a way to owning their
own home in the city.  The no warning announcement was not
appreciated and has forced many (recent) investors to sell their
investments under a huge amount of stress. 
For the investors with 10+ properties,  they are unaffected.  “I’ll just
sell one and clear all my mortgages” is a common response. 
All this is doing is hurting small time investors with one or two
properties (often just breaking even) and tenants. 
I support the government in many of their policies, but this one is just
plain awful.
Regards, 



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I am totally against this proposal as I believe this is an unfair tax treatment on individuals or
families who invested in properties to cover retirement.
As Individuals you are no longer able to claim rental losses against other income, thus
increasing your personal tax, and this will increase tax rates further.
I do not believe that investors should be punished and used as an excuse for increase in house
prices, when demand far outweighs supply.
If everyone was to sell investment properties tomorrow, the government does not have the
stock available for all those renting, or the other effect would be increasing rent prices, which
would be beyond some peoples affordability.
All other things the government has tried to cool house prices, has had no effect and do not
believe by introducing this, will have the outcome they predict.
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Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules
Date:
Monday, 12 July 2021 3:55:09 PM
Attachments:
Opes Partners Submission on the Interest Deductibility Tax Changes.pdf
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Good afternoon,
Please find attached our submission in regards to the design of the interest limitation rule and
additional bright line rules. 
This includes our main submission (PDF) and then a supporting Excel document. 
We welcome any additional dialogue with the IRD, whether over email, phone or face to
face. Please do not hesitate to contact me on s9(2)(a)
Thanks,
s9(2)(a)
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Christchurch | Wellington | Auckland
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[RELEASED FROM QUARANTINE]Re: Design of the interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules
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> On 12/07/2021, at 3:51 PM, s9(2)(a)
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> Good afternoon,

> Please find attached our submission in regards to the design of the interest limitation rule and
additional bright line rules. 

> This includes our main submission (PDF) and then a supporting Excel document. 

> We welcome any additional dialogue with the IRD, whether over email, phone or face to face.
Please do not hesitate to contact me on s9(2)(a)

> Thanks,

s9(2)(a)


      Opes Partners 
Submission on the design of the interest 
limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 
Submitted By Opes Partners 
 
Introduction and Context 
Opes Partners is a property investment advisory firm, which helps investors purchase New-
Build properties from developers. Our submission is on both our behalf and the investors we 
work with who purchase New-Builds for investment purposes. 
 
As part of this submission, we have surveyed these investors and built a cashflow model to 
show the impact of the government’s changes on investors. This Excel spreadsheet is 
attached to our submission. 
 
Key Points 
•  We are opposed to the proposed changes in their entirety and believe the proposals: 
o  Lead to a less efficient property market 
o  Unnecessarily complicate the tax system 
o  Wil  create unintended consequences, some of which we can anticipate, such 
as rising rents. Others we are yet to discover. 
•  However, should the changes come into effect, we recommend the fol owing: 
•  [Our strongest recommendation] 8.8 – That the IRD extends the transitional 
definition of a New-Build to include properties that investors bought directly from a 
developer and where the Code Compliance Certificate (CCC) was issued on or after 
27th March 2016 
•  1.14 – That the IRD clarifies the definition of a boarding house 
•  7.10 – That an uninhabitable property that an investor has renovated such that it 
becomes habitable is considered a New-Build 
•  8.20 – That Option #2 is implemented: Early owners of New-Builds carry the 
exemption in perpetuity, and subsequent purchases have the exemption for a fixed 
period. 
Opes Partners submission on the design of the 

interest limitation rule and additional bright-line rules 


      Opes Partners 
•  8.20 – That the IRD clarifies whether an investor whose CCC was issued before 27th 
March 2021 can restructure ownership to fall under the transitional New-Build 
definition 
•  8.21 – That the length of the fixed period be 20 years 
•  8.22 – That the Continued Investment Rule be abandoned 
•  10.72 – That Rol over relief is implemented. 
 
The Submission 
 
8.8 – The Definition of Transitionary New Builds 
•  1.5 of the discussion document states: “Housing supply: The interest limitation and 
bright-line extension should not discourage new additions to the stock of housing.” 
•  Properties purchased directly from a developer that received CCC before 27th March 
2021 wil  not be defined as New-Builds (unless classed as transitionary) as the policy 
currently stands.  
•  This definition is likely to hinder the government’s objective of increasing the 
housing stock. 
•  At Opes Partners, all our clients have purchased New-Build properties directly from 
developers, which has grown New Zealand's housing supply. 
•  Because these investors already incorporate New-Builds in their strategy, they are 
the investors who are most likely to purchase New-Builds repeatedly in the future. 
•  However, the current definition of a New-Build means that these investors wil  pay 
more tax on the properties they already own.  
•  The effect is that some wil  not be in the financial position to purchase the same 
number of New-Builds they otherwise would have. 
•  This decreases the demand for New-Builds and means that the country’s housing 
stock wil  grow more slowly than would otherwise be the case, counter to the 
government’s objective. 
•  To quantify this, at a recent webinar, we asked investors the fol owing questions: 
o  Have you bought a New-Build investment property before? 
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o  Based on these definitions, will your properties still be considered a New-
Build? 
o  If all your properties were still considered New-Builds, how would that 
impact your investment decisions? 
•  The responses to these questions have allowed us to understand whether a change 
in the New-Build definition would increase the housing supply or not. 
 
Table: Investor response to – “Based on These Definitions Will Your Properties Still Be 
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•  This shows that the interest-deductibility change will negatively impact about half of 
the investors in our sample who previously purchased New-Builds. 
•  However, the most important statistic is whether that additional tax will discourage 
New-Build investment in the future: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 Table: Investor response to – “If All Your Properties Were Still Considered New Builds, 
How Would That Impact Your Investment Decisions?”  
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•  The table shows that 54.05% of the investors who both a) purchased a New-Build 
before and who b) now can’t claim the New-Build exemption would buy more New-
Builds if the IRD granted these investor’s properties the New-Build exemption. 
•  That’s why the government should implement a broader definition of a transitionary 
New-Build. We suggest that any property that received its CCC after 27th March 
2016 should receive the New-Build exemption. 
 
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The above graphs show the annual and cumulative cashflows for the same property before 
(left) and after (right) the government's tax change. The bar graph shows the yearly after-
tax cashflow. The orange line shows the cumulative cashflow over time.  

 
1.14 – The Definition of Boarding Houses 
•  The discussion document plans to exempt boarding houses from the tax changes. A 
move that we support. 
•  However, the discussion document does not define what a boarding house is. 
•  Section 66B of the Residential Tenancies Act (RTA) defines a boarding house as: 
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o  One or more boarding rooms along with facilities for communal use by the 
tenants of the boarding house; and occupied, or intended by the landlord to 
be occupied, by six or more tenants at a time. 
•  This provides broad scope for investors to claim their properties are boarding 
houses. 
•  To avoid doubt, the IRD should explicitly state the definition of a boarding house. If 
that is the definition used in the RTA, that should be stated. If there is another 
definition to be used, this needs to be clarified too. 
•  We believe that the definition of a Boarding House should not be so tightly defined 
as to discourage their formation. This is especially true since they tend to provide 
relatively affordable accommodation for lower-income renters. 
•  If the RTA definition is not used, an alternative definition could read: a residential; 
property that contains four bedrooms or more, where each room has a separate 
agreement with the landlord and tenants share communal kitchen facilities. 
 
7.10 – Uninhabitable Properties That Have Been Renovated To Become Habitable To Be 
Defined As New-Builds 
•  We agree that the IRD should include renovated properties within the definition of 
New-Builds where an investor has made an uninhabitable dwelling habitable. 
•  If this is not included, the government runs the risk that resources are wasted. There 
are instances where it takes fewer resources to renovate an uninhabitable dwel ing 
to bring it into a habitable state, rather than tearing the building down and a new 
one.   
•  For instance, building a New-Build property on a vacant site may cost $250,000 - 
$350,000. However, a renovation may only cost $50,000 - $100,000. 
•  This is important because one of the biggest inhibitors to housing supply growth are: 
o  Cost and availability of building materials 
o  Availability of labour 
•  It is not in the government’s interests to have this labour and materials ties up 
unnecessarily. 
•  Therefore, encouraging investors to remediate uninhabitable properties allows 
scarce labour and building materials to build new houses. 
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o  This efficiency helps achieve the government’s priorities in both 1.5 (housing 
supply) and in 1.2 (a competitive housing market that can respond to 
changes). 
•  It is unacceptable that the government could introduce low-quality regulation 
because they could not find a convenient administrative method to track the policy. 
•  Because of this, we propose an approach where before embarking on a renovation, 
an investor must engage two professionals to confirm the property is uninhabitable. 
o  First, a healthy homes assessor, showing that the property does not currently 
meet the government’s Healthy Homes Standards. 
o  Secondly, a registered valuer (or similar) to make a qualitative assessment of 
the property. 
o  The investor would re-engage both professionals once renovations have 
finished, confirming that the property now meets Healthy Homes Standards 
and that the dwel ing is now habitable. 
•  This would not be a perfect solution, and the IRD would need to complete further 
consultation. But, there is more to be lost by not implementing the policy than 
implementing an imperfect solution. 
 
8.20 – That Option #2 be implemented: Early owners of New-Builds carry the exemption in 
perpetuity and subsequent purchasers to have the exemption for a fixed period. 
•  For investors to have the confidence to purchase a New-Build investment property, 
they need to believe they could sell it if required. 
•  One critical concern investors raised with Opes Partners’ financial advisers before 
the discussion document was released was whether investors could pass interest 
deductibility on to another investor. And if not, whether this would compromise 
their ability to sel  the property in future. 
•  To quantify this, at a recent webinar, we asked investors the fol owing question: 
 
 
 
 
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Table: Investor response to – “If you couldn’t pass on interest deductibility to the next 
buyer, how would that impact your property investment decisions?" 
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•  The poll clearly shows that more than half of investors stated that they’d buy fewer 
New-Builds if they could not pass on interest deductibility to the next buyer. 
•  The government’s goal (1.5) is that the policy “should not discourage new additions 
to the stock of housing”. With this in mind, the best option to achieve this aim is the 
second bullet point in 8.20. Early owners receive the exemption in perpetuity, and 
Subsequent purchasers may claim the exemption for a fixed period. 
•  Increasing demand for New-Builds in this way would ensure that more properties are 
added to the housing stock than would otherwise be the case. 
 
8.20 – That the IRD clarifies whether an investor whose CCC was issued before 27th March 
2021 can restructure ownership to fall under the definition of a transitionary New-Build
 
•  The investors we work with almost always purchase properties off-the-plans, which 
may be 6-24 months before the property is built, CCC is issued, and the property 
settles. 
•  Many investors that we work with signed contracts for properties that received CCC 
within the six months to 27th March 2021. Therefore, these properties will not be 
captured under the definition of a New-Build as currently stated within the 
discussion document. This is because the contracts were also signed before 27th 
March 2021. 
•  However, if they had signed a sale and purchase agreement after 27th March 2021  
for the same property, the IRD would capture them under the transitionary New-
Build definition. 
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•  Under the current definitions, the investors can currently sel  the property to 
another investor who could then claim the New-Build exemption. However, these 
investors aren’t able to claim the exemption themselves. 
•  This is a distortion created by the policy that doesn’t make sense. 
•  These investors have queried whether they can transfer the property via a Sale and 
Purchase agreement to an entity they control, e.g. a trust or Look-Through-
Company. In this case, if they transfer the property’s ownership, they would 
potentially come under the definition of a transitionary New-Build. 
•  We seek clarification from the IRD whether this is a legitimate way an investor can 
be captured under the definition, or whether this would be considered tax 
avoidance. 
o  If our suggestion to 8.8 – where transitionary New-Builds are defined as 
properties with CCC issuance after 27th March 2016– is accepted, this 
clarification would not be necessary. 
 
8.21 – That the length of the fixed period be 20 years 
•  To achieve the government’s goal to ensure there aren’t disincentives to grow the 
housing supply, we believe that the fixed period for a New-Build should be 20 years. 
o  This is in addition to our preferred option of Early owners receiving the 
exemption in perpetuity. 
 
8.22 – That the Continued Investment Rule be abandoned 
•  In 1.5, the government states that “the rules should not be unduly complex so that 
they raise unnecessary administrative and compliance costs.” 
•  We understand the academic reasons for the Continued-Investment-Rule. However, 
believe that the rule is unnecessarily complex and creates unintended negative 
consequences. 
•  For instance, an investor would be unable to purchase a New-Build to rent, live in it 
for a period and then rent it again. 
•  Therefore, investors would have an incentive not to live in their own houses even if 
it made sense for their personal situation for a time. 
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•  The rule also negatively impacts First Home Buyers. Many first home buyers are 
unable to purchase a property where they prefer to live. A legitimate path to first 
home ownership is to buy an affordable New-Build using their KiwiSaver and the 
First Home Grant. They may then live in the property for a time and then turn it into 
a rental once minimum occupancy times (for KiwiSaver and the First Home Grant) 
have lapsed. 
•  In the absence of the Continued Investment Rule, the tax rules incentivise first home 
buyers to purchase new builds, growing the housing stock. With the Continued 
Investment Rule, first home buyers are disadvantaged compared to investors, who 
don’t have the need to live in their properties.  
•  Because of this, we believe there is both a Housing Supply and Complexity of the Tax 
System argument for abandoning the rule. 
 
10 – That Rollover Relief Is Implemented. 
•  We support Rollover relief and believe it fixes the problem that properties settled 
into inappropriate structures can’t be appropriately restructured without triggering 
the Bright Line Test. 
 
Conclusion 
Although we remain opposed to the overarching change being suggested, we believe the 
above amendments will improve the effectiveness of the tax changes in achieving the 
government's goals.  
 
We welcome any additional dialogue with the IRD, whether to discuss how the tax changes 
affect individual property investors or the details of the attached Excel model. We would 
also be willing to provide an unlocked version for the IRD's inspection. 
 
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