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From:
Angelique Kerr
To:
Ministerial Requests
Subject:
C002195
Date:
Thursday, 5 April 2018 11:23:30 a.m.
For draft reply
From: Marama Kainamu-Wheeler 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2018 12:29 PM
To: Angelique Kerr <[email address]>
Subject: RE: Waitakere Area Principals Association meeting with Tracey Martin this morning
Kia ora Angelique
Will your Minister respond to this one?
Marama
From: K Davis (MIN) 
Sent: Monday, 26 March 2018 11:05 AM
To: Marama Kainamu-Wheeler <[email address]>
Subject: FW: Waitakere Area Principals Association meeting with Tracey Martin this morning
Please see correspondence below.
Kind regards,
Kaitlyn de Lugt | Roving Private Secretary (Administration)
Office of Hon Kelvin Davis
Minister of Corrections
Minister for Crown/Maor  Relations
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Associate Minister of Education (Maori Education)
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From: Kelly Stratton On Behalf Of Office Davis
Sent: Monday, 26 March 2018 9:44 AM
To: K Davis (MIN) <[email address]>
Subject: FW: Waitakere Area Principals Association meeting with Tracey Martin this morning
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From: Donal Mclean [mailto:[email address]] 
Sent: Friday, 23 March 2018 12:03 PM
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To: Hon Tracey Martin <[email address]>; Hon Chris Hipkins
<[email address]>; Hon Jenny Salesa <[email address]>; Hon
Kelvin Davis <[email address]>
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Subject: Waitakere Area Principals Association meeting with Tracey Martin this morning
 
Kia Ora Koutou Ministers Hipkins and Martin, Salesa and Davis
WAPA met with Minister Tracey Martin this morning 7:30 -9am
It was a very useful meeting where much was spoken that helped we as educators to get
alongside our ministers.
Challenges were thrown out on both sides and respectfully dealt with by both sides. The
Waitakere Area Principals Association would be more than happy to engage with the
ministry in the summits and beyond these
A sea change of respectfulness and responsibility was in evidence and the 90 principals
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and senior leadership in the room left very heartened. .
This is in stark contrast to the previous governments approach to education.
We spoke of all topics concerning education but in short these themes were covered
 
Discussion Theme #1: Learning Support
 
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1.       Restraint & Seclusion guidelines, an update and next steps
2.       Funding for students with Mental Health issues
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3.       Improving support systems to schools
4.       Understanding and working with the data
 
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Discussion Theme #2: Property
 
1.       Managing timeframes
2.       Transparency of process
3.       Ensuring equity
 
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Discussion Theme #3: System Change
 
1.       Learning support system review, an update and next steps




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From:
9(2)(a)
To:
Hon Tracey Martin
Subject:
Restraint guidelines
Date:
Tuesday, 4 September 2018 7:45:43 p.m.
Kia Ora Tracey
With an upcoming Te Tai Tokerau Principals meeting coming up Im just wondering if
there have been any developments fre
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From:
9(2)(a)
To:
Hon Tracey Martin
Subject:
Oops sent before finished
Date:
Tuesday, 4 September 2018 7:52:31 p.m.
... query where the Restraint of pupils request for reviewing is at. If you recall the way it
is interpreted both by MOE and schools takes common sense out of the equation.
Arohanui
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From:
Angelique Kerr
To:
Ministerial Requests
Subject:
C004457
Date:
Thursday, 27 September 2018 2:29:21 p.m.
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From: 9(2)(a)
 
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2018 10:24 AM
To: Hon Chris Hipkins <[email address]>
Subject: Response to MOE lack of understanding!
 
MY RESPONSE TO MR DAVID WALES
NATIONAL MANAGER LEARNING SUPPORT
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION
 
27 June 2018
 
 
 
Kia Ora Chris
 
So the ministry is monitoring even the Northland Age. See the letter below to the Editor, from a
David Wales who calls himself National Manager Learning Support. Pity that he hadn’t spent the
time understanding our problem instead of trying to defend the indefensible… 
 
David Wales’s response, shows a total lack of understanding of our problem. Remember this is
the same person who sta ed that if we had violent children we should call the Police, even if we
were a 100km away from a Police Station.
 
 
His response misconstrues what our concerns are, and treats us like country bumpkins who
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don’t understand how helpful his guidelines actually are for us!  David also makes out that all
those attending the meeting in Wellington were totally in agreement with the Ministry stance,
which we know is totally untrue, and he basically laments that we at the coal face, don’t
understand!
 
Let’s be clear…
 
I have never said that Ministry of Education prohibited teachers form physically restraining
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children who are behaving dangerously in school!! However, we have given at least one example
of a principal following Ministry Guidelines who as a result was put through a 3.5month
investigation by police and treated like a criminal with no support from Ministry.
 
What David Wales and his ghost writer in the Ministry fail to grasp is the unintended

consequences of the guidelines with regards dealing with children who are not being a
danger to themselves or others!
 
 
The child smashing equipment or destroying a room… guidelines say remove all the other
children and leave the child in room, presumably until they have destroyed everything!  David do
you really believe that that is what most people would consider was the best way to handle such
a situation, or is it Mad Hatter territory?
 
The 5-year-old throwing a tantrum because they don’t want mum or dad to go and leave them at
school and keeps trying to run after her or him!!! A school is under the guidelines not allowed to
restrain them and calm them down as we used to for years
David do you really believe that that is what most people would consider was the best way to
handle such a situation, or is it Mad Hatter territory?
 
The child refusing to get out of a car and walk into school…. we are not allowed to pick the child
up and carry them into school as we have done for years. David do you really believe that that is
what most people would consider was the best way to handle such a situation, or is it Mad
Hatter territory?
 
 
The child running out of the school grounds we are not allowed to stop…. we are told we cannot
restrain until they put themselves in danger… so we run after them and wait till they run out on
the road in front of a truck??? David do you really be ieve that that is what most people would
consider was the best way to handle such a situation, or is it Mad Hatter territory?
 
 
I would love David and his office bound colleagues to actually deal with the daily occurrences we
have to deal with in our classrooms. Then instead of spending time defending the indefensible,
they just might do what they are paid to do: - actually help us!!
 
David Wales obviously does not understand the real need for change with regards restraint He
also forgot coincidentally to mention that the Ministry responses at the meeting in Wellington
were so pedantically up to expectations that it is laughable if it wasn’t so sad! The Ministry
refused point blank to look at an amendment to legislation, which is what really is needed…
 
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Its cuckoo  and, run by the Mad Hatters and all David has done in his response to the Editor of
the Northland Age, is a film flam job to cover ineptitude and denigrate those of us actually
dealing with the problem created by his Ministry.
 
What a pity that David could not put the same effort into actually helping schools with this
problem…
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