Refugee Detention Information

Joshua Grainger made this Official Information request to Department of Labour

The request was partially successful.

From: Joshua Grainger

Dear Department of Labour,

On the 12th of April I requested from you under the Official Information Act various information related to plans to deal with "boat people." On the 29th of June I received a response (visible at http://fyi.org.nz/request/plans_for_boat...) that gave the names of various documents containing plans for dealing with mass arrivals by sea. I now have a follow up Official Information Act request.

First: I want to thank you for dealing my with my request, I underestimated how many documents would be caught by my request, and I want to thank you in working to attempt to answer my request. Looking at how many documents were captured, I would hate to think how much background information would exist.

Second: the purpose of this follow up request is to request some documents which the titles were given of in my original request. I wish to request:
a) the Refugee Quota Branch, detention manual (document no. 10 in the response to me)
b) the draft MOU between DoL and various agencies to support open immigration detention in the event of a mass arrival (no 11)
c) the report entitled "Mass Arrival of Illegal Immigrants: Compliance Operations Branch Response Plan" (no 3)

Feel free to contact me if you wish me to clarify my request.

Yours faithfully,

Joshua Grainger

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From: OIA GEMS
Department of Labour


Attachment 1203399 OIA Acknowledgement Joshua Grainger.pdf
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Dear Joshua Grainger,

Please find attached an acknowledgement letter in relation to your recent request.

Regards,

Chris Fletcher
On behalf of

Liz McMillan
Manager
Government Executive and Ministerial Support
Labour Group
Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment

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From: Sandy Tuhou
Department of Labour


Attachment 1203399 OIA Response Joshua Grainger 30.07.12.pdf
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Dear Joshua Grainger

 

Please find attached a response to your recent OIA request.

 

 

Have a lovely day.

Sandy Tuhou

On behalf of

Liz McMillan

Manager

Government Executive and Ministerial Support

 

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Alex Harris left an annotation ()

Looking at that, some of those "reasons" look highly dubious, and there's the overriding question of why the material was not provided with redactions, rather than withheld in its entirity.

I suggest taking it to the Ombudsman.

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Alex Harris left an annotation ()

To expand on that: none of the material in question is "advice" (operations manuals and MOUs can't be), it deals with relationships with government bodies rather than commercial enterprises so it can't be commercial, and there's no obvious impact on privacy apart from the names of any officials mentioned (which of course can be redacted).

Which keaves the s6 exclusions, which ought to be able to be dealt with via redactions at appropriate points.

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From: Joshua Grainger

Dear Sandy Tuhou,

Thank you very much for your reply. I have a few follow up requests and questions:

First: can I please request a breakdown for the three documents I requested which withholding provisions apply to each? This is because I wish to complain to the Ombudsmen, and knowing which provisions apply to each document makes it easier.

Second : It was pointed out to me that some reasons for withholding where rather peculiar: none of the material in question seems to be "advice" (operations manuals and MOUs can't be), it deals with relationships with government bodies rather than commercial enterprises so it can't be commercial, and there's no obvious impact on privacy apart from the names of any officials mentioned (which of course can be redacted). I was wondering if you could expand on the reasons why these particular declining provisons were applied: this would help in informing my complaint to the Ombudsmen, so I can respond to the reasons why it was declined.

Finally, please can I request under the Official Information Act all documents related to my request, including *all* emails, draft responses, and other such correspondence. I recognize that this request may take the longest, and so if this request is holding up responses to my other points, can the answer to this be dealt with in a seperate email?

Yours sincerely,

Joshua Grainger

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Joshua Grainger left an annotation ()

Cheers Alex, thanks for your assistance. As you can see, I used your language in the follow up request in order to try to figure out what was going on.

I suspect that there maybe something politically risky in one of those documents, and an instruction from the Minister's office has came down urging them to decline.

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From: OIA GEMS
Department of Labour

Dear Mr Grainger

Parts 1 and 2 of your email have been passed to the relevant workgroup to respond to. Part 3 will be acknowledged separately as a new request and a formal acknowledgement letter will follow shortly.

Regards

Liz McMillan
Manager, Government Executive and Ministerial Support
Labour Group, Ministry of Business, Innovation & Employment
56 The Terrace | PO Box 3705 | Wellington | New Zealand

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From: Sandy Tuhou
Department of Labour


Attachment 1203955 OIA Acknowledgement Joshua Grainger 30.07.12.pdf
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Dear Joshua Grainger

 

 

Please find attached an acknowledgement to your recent OIA request.

 

 

Have a lovely day.

Sandy Tuhou

On behalf of

Liz McMillan

Manager

Government Executive and Ministerial Support

 

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From: OIA GEMS
Department of Labour


Attachment 1203955 OIA Response pt1 Joshua Grainger.pdf
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Attachment 1203955 OIA Response pt2 Joshua Grainger.pdf
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Dear Joshua Grainger,

Please find attached the response in relation to your recent request.

Regards,

Chris Fletcher
On behalf of

Liz McMillan
Manager
Government Executive and Ministerial Support
Labour Group
Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment

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From: Joshua Grainger

Dear OIA GEMS,

I would just like to check on the status of my follow up request (acknowledged in letter file no 12/03955), which was received on the 30th of June. According to the Ombudsmen's calculator the deadline for responding to this request passed on the 27th of August, and I have not received any response. Can you please advise me when I will be receiving one?

Yours sincerely,

Joshua Grainger

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Attachment 1203955 OIA Response pt1 Joshua Grainger.pdf
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Attachment 1203955 OIA Response pt2 Joshua Grainger.pdf
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Kia ora Joshua,

I'm slightly confused. You're responding to the email that was sent to you containing your response. Was there a problem with the attachments, or do you feel your request wasn't responded to?

In case there was a problem with the attachments, I have again attached the pdfs for you.

Regards,

Chris Fletcher

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From: Joshua Grainger

Dear OIA GEMS,

Apologies for the confusion Chris. In my follow up I asked three questions. One and two were answered by your recent reply, but I have not yet received the answer to question 3 ("all documents related to my request (num 12/03399), including *all* emails, draft responses, and other such correspondence"). This third request was lodged as a new OIA request and acknowledged in letter letter file no 12/03955.

Apologies if you're not the right person to send this to: all I can see when replying using the FYI website is either the main contact email for the Department of Labour, Sandy Tuhou's email, or the OIA GEMS email. I figured OIA GEMS was the right email to send this to. (along with this I cannot see or change the subject line of the email reply)

Yours sincerely,

Joshua Grainger

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From: OIA GEMS
Department of Labour

Kia ora Joshua,

Replying to this email address is easiest, since it's through this address that the Labour group of MBIE currently manages a significant portion of its OIA responsibilities.

The response letter includes the contact information for Andrew Lockhart, who you should contact in regards to this particular part of your request. I have contacted Andrew to let him know that you wish to speak with him regarding your request.

You have the right to seek an investigation and review of the Ministry's response by the Ombudsman, whose address for contact purposes is:

The Ombudsman
Office of the Ombudsmen
PO Box 10-152
The Terrace
Wellington 6143

Regards,

Chris Fletcher

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From: OIA GEMS
Department of Labour


Attachment 1203955 OIA Additional Response pt1 Joshua Grainger.pdf
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Dear Joshua Grainger,

Please find attached the response in relation to your recent request.

Regards,

Chris Fletcher
On behalf of

Liz McMillan
Manager
Government Executive and Ministerial Support
Labour Group
Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment

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Alex Harris left an annotation ()

So they decided to call the health & safety appendix to the mass-arrival plan "out of scope" to avoid any substantive response to your request. Despite the fact that you'd specifically requested the report in its entirity.

Dodgy.

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Alex Harris left an annotation ()

Also, check the Ministerial consultation / risk assessment on p 50 - 55. On p54 there's some specific information about FYI which is withheld as "free and frank advice". Further down, they note that "The request is from a website known to publish information they receive through OIA requests".

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Joshua Grainger left an annotation ()

Interesting things revealed from the doc release include:

* Ministers seem to regard the list of use of FYI as a potential risk in releasing docs under the OIA: page 54. Part of the explanation here was withheld under s9(2)(f)(iv). I may do a follow up under the Privacy Act, which does not have this withholding provision, for an unredacted document.

* Organizations which were consulted with as regards the release of the DoL MOU seem to include: the MoD, MoE, NZDF, DPMC, Dept of Corrections, MoH, MSD, MoJ, District Courts,

* Appendix Six of the Compliance Branch Operation plan is only withheld to protect the names and phone numbers of those who are involved. The Ombudsmen has previously ruled that the withholding of names is alone not enough to justify a refusal on privacy grounds.

* on page 10 the name of another requester of similar information under the OIA is released. Given the effort that went into protecting their staff's names, shouldn't the same effort be applied to protecting other requester's names?

* I appear to be a blogger?

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