Request for Application to Enrol

K Roe made this Official Information request to University of Otago

This request has been reported as needing administrator attention (perhaps because it is vexatious, or a request for personal information)

From: K Roe

Dear University of Otago,

I am having trouble applying to enrol in the University of Otago by way of the online system.

This is the THIRD TIME I have requested paper forms that I may fill out and post to where they are supposed to go.

As a domestic student of New Zealand who has attained the age of 20 years the Education Act informs me I am ENTITLED TO BE ENROLLED IN THE PROGRAM OF MY CHOOSING.

It may seem clever, somehow, to simply refuse to give students who are in fact ENTITLED to be enrolled an application form -- but I can assure you it is not within the spirit of the Education Act, and it simply isn't any good.

If you could upload a PDF application to enrol so that any student who is ENTITLED to be enrolled (or any student who wishes for SPECIAL CONSIDERATION to be enrolled as they have not attainted the age of 20 years, yet) can apply to be enrolled then that would be terrific. It would also be terrific if such forms were freely available to students from a convenient location on your webpage (in which case a link to that would suffice).

I can't believe that one is supposed to beg or bribe applications to enrol from administrators.

Welcome to 2020.

Yours faithfully,

A person in New Zealand

Kelly Roe

Link to this

From: University of Otago Registrar
University of Otago

Dear Ms Roe

 

Notwithstanding that I have previously provided you with information on
application processes at the University of Otago, I do not take this to be
an Official Information Act request.  Furthermore, an answer to your query
may require me to divulge personal information, which would be
inappropriate via the public FYI website.  Please contact me directly
about this matter if you wish to discuss further (email
[1][University of Otago request email]).

 

Yours sincerely

 

Chris Stoddart

Registrar and Secretary to the Council

University of Otago

 

References

Visible links
1. mailto:[University of Otago request email]

Link to this

From: K Roe

Dear University of Otago Registrar,

I'm sorry -- the link you supplied to me to a PDF application to enrol that can be filled out by any student and posted to the University does not appear to be working.

Please can you supply a link.

Thanks.

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

Link to this

From: K Roe

Dear University of Otago Registrar,

I did not ask you for information on application process.

I asked to be supplied with an application to enrol.

The Education Act states that as a domestic student who has attained the age of 20 years I am eligible for and thus entitled to be enrolled in any program I apply to enrol in.

I understand the Univerity thinks it is very very clever is refusing to supply application to enrol forms to students who would be eligible to be enrolled in certain programmes if only they could submit an application form!

I assure you that the purpose of the Education Act is to allow for the tertiary education of adults, primary.

I understand the University council may set minimum requirements on teenagers so as to be satified (perhaps even delighted or titillated) by their antics so the council selects some of them to be eligible too.

I undertand that the University council has become so very focused on selecting teenagers for abuse (or whatever it is that they plan to do with them) that they have forgotten their primary purpose of enrolling adult domestic studnets who are entitled to be enrolled in the program they have decided they want to pursue with their life.

Again:

Please can you supply to ANY STUDENT WHO CHOOSES TO COMPLETE ONE. An APPLICATION TO ENROL IN ALL OF THE PROGRAMS THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF OTAGO OFFERS. So that the University may at least try just a little tiny bit to do something of the function that is specified in the Education Act.

ANd actually have a sustainable tertiary education sector.

And actually have a sustainable medical program.

That does involve teenagers bribing officials either overseas or domestically in order to be signed off as meeting program requirements that they did not meet.

This undermines the credibility of the university both domestically and internationally.

It is not sustainable that Otago refuses to supply applications to enrol to domestic students who have attained the age of 20 years.

Otago does not get to decide which of these studnets are eligble to be enrolled. The Education Act has decided they are eligible to be enrolled.

The council may select from amongst eligible students (not using the public system for private advantage, of course). But the council does not get to select who is eligible.

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

Link to this

From: K Roe

Dear University of Otago Registrar,

I apologise that I need to ask in a public setting so there is public record that I asked.

6 times now, more...

The University of Otago refuses to supply applications to enrol to domestic studnets who have attained the age of 20 years because the University of Otago prefers to engage in a system whereby the council selects teenagers.

This results in professional practice programmes (e.g., medicine and law) being filled with teenagers specially selected by the council rather than being filled with adults who have attained the age of 20 years and made their own life decisions about how they live outside their parents bubble.

The University of Otago is largely filled with teenagers who abuse alcohol and abuse each other because the University of Otago council chooses to priorise the supply of application to enrol forms to teenagers ratehr than to domestic students who have attained the age of 20 years.

The University of Otago is a public University. Not a private university. It is not legitimate for the council to use public training places to private advantage to themselves their friends and their smaller relations.

People from overseas may wish to think about whether they want to spend any time or any money at all investing in a ''University'' who refuses to engage in it's primary function (tertiary education for adults) in favor of petty antics allowing for prioritised selection of teenagers into ''professional practice'' programs that are (rather inexplicably, i'm sure) full of alcohol, physical, and sexual abuse.

Again: Supply application to enrol forms. Domestic studnets who have attained the age of 20 years are eligible to enrol. Supply the forms.

If the University of Otago cannot supply application to enrol forms to students who are eligible to be enrolled (if only tehy submitted a form) then perhaps the Ministry of Health needs to provide application to enrol forms to people applying to enrol in Public Universities in New Zealand.

I am asking the University of Otago to do it's job. Please. YOu can't tell me the VC isn't paid enough to suppply applciation to enrol forms to the public.

It's beyond a joke.

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

Link to this

From: K Roe

Dear University of Otago Registrar,

And I course I meant the Ministry of Education rather than the Ministry of Health or the State Services Commission.

I'm sure there doesn't need to be centralisation of any of that because things are sustainably developing in the regions.

(yeah right)

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

Link to this

From: University of Otago Registrar
University of Otago

Dear Ms Roe

 

I reiterate again that this is not an Official Information Act request,
and that the application process for Medicine is described on the
University website.  There is no PDF application form.

 

Sincerely

 

Chris Stoddart

Registrar and Secretary to the Council

University of Otago

 

Link to this

From: K Roe

Dear University of Otago Registrar,

The University of Otago 'application process' is required to comply with the laws of New Zealand.

The Education Act states that domestic students who have attained the age of 20 years are eligible to be enrolled in the programme they have applied to.

I have asked 6 times (this year) to be provided with an application to enrol because I cannot seem to submit an application to enrol from the University website.

The statute of limitations allows the University to selection from amongst eligible studnets -- but not to deny that a domestic student who has attained the age of 20 years is eligible.

Typically selection is on the basis of academic merit. Or preference may be given to people from minority groups. I suppose that means that when preference is not given to people on the basis of academic merit it is given to people on the basis of their being a member of a minority group.

I see no grounds for Otago to say that a domestic student who has attained the age of 20 years is only entitled to submit one application.

I see no grounds for Otago to limit the eligibility of domesetic students who have attained the age of 20 years at all.

FYI -- by what authority does Otago refuse to supply me (a domestic student who has attained the age of 20 years) an application to the Degree program of my choosing?

I would like an application please.

(7 times. Seriously???)

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

Link to this

From: K Roe

Dear University of Otago Registrar,

When I try and use the online form it will not let me submit an application to enrol in MBChB.

The Education Act states that as a domestic studnet who has attained the age of 20 years I am ENTITLED to be enrolled in the program I have applied to.

I assure you that the intention of the Education Act is not for the University to be 'clever' by refusing to supply applications to enrol so that all the places can be allocated to the elite white minority kids of those on the Medical Admissions Committee and kids who make their own progeny look best.

I have made many many many requests for an application to enrol for a programme I am ENTITLED to be enrolled in.

The University is allowed to specify SELECTION CRITERION ONLY. Not eligibility criterion for domestic studnets who have attained the age of 20 years.

The University of Otago has been in violation of Statutory Duty. Negligent. Malfescence of Office. REFUSING to process applications to enrol by studnets who are ENTITLED because of their own stupidity in selecting teenagers who make bribes to foreign officials to be signed off on their Degrees. The Univerity of Otago is responsible for holding back the development of Medicine and Surgery and Professional Standards by refusing to do any of the things that it is supposed to do when it comes to fairness in selection.

Where is my application to enrol?

I should not have to get the courts to fucking order you to supply one.

DO YOUR JOB
DO YOUR JOB
DO YOUR JOB

ffs.

Yours sincerely,

K Roe

Link to this

Things to do with this request

Anyone:
University of Otago only: