Rosie Jansen
From:
Stuart Grant
Sent:
Wednesday, 5 June 2019 3:06 p.m.
To:
Karma McFarlane
Subject:
Re: Water consent reply
Thanks Karma
That is what I would have provided. Thanks for checking the companies register.
Cheers
Stu
Stuart Grant
On 5/06/2019, at 13:31, Karma McFarlane <[email address]> wrote:
Hi Stu
I realise you are out of the office and unfortunately had to send a reply to Councillors before I could
check in with you.
I have used some information from the email you were sent from the company (Heretaunga
Water/International Springs). I received advice from Andrea that I could share this but to put a
disclaimer that it is commercially sensitive and to not share with the public.
The email I sent out to the Councillors and Andrea’s advice is below.
Thanks
Karma
From: Liezel Jahnke
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:46 p.m.
To: Karma McFarlane
Cc: Andrea Hilton
Subject: Re: Water consent reply
OK thanks, yes to send to Crs and to ELT as will likely come up in Policy tonight.
Kind regards
Liezel Jahnke
Business Improvement Manager | Asset Management and Operations
Upper Hutt City Council
On 5/06/2019, at 10:58 AM, Karma McFarlane <[email address]> wrote:
If you are happy I will send the draft approved by Andrea below.
I will also send Stu an email to let him know I have shared the information sent to
him with Councillors.
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From: Andrea Hilton
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:55 a.m.
To: Karma McFarlane; Liezel Jahnke
Cc: Geoff Swainson; Richard Harbord
Subject: RE: Water consent reply
Great
Regards
Andrea Hilton
From: Karma McFarlane <[email address]>
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:53 AM
To: Andrea Hilton <[email address]>; Liezel Jahnke
<[email address]>
Cc: Geoff Swainson <[email address]>; Richard Harbord
<[email address]>
Subject: RE: Water consent reply
How about the below? Any issues with this or anything else to
include?
Thanks!
Hi Angela,
Unfortunately Upper Hutt City Council has no jurisdiction to grant a
resource consent for water rights, therefore the consent has been
granted by Greater Wellington Regional Council to take and use
water from an existing bore. The Council is excluded from
contributing to a decision by GWRC to grant a resource consent
unless GWRC decides it is necessary to limited notify the Council or
it is necessary to notify the consent application to the public. This
application was not notified.
Please note the following information may have some commercial
sensitivity and as such should not be shared with the public.
My understanding is that initially the company intend to extract
water under the consent and ship in bulk overseas for bottling at
the point of intended distribution and at some point they will be
looking to have in place a bottling facility at Refreshment Place. The
consent is due to expire 13 Feb 2023 (which they’re allowed to
renew). The applicant has applied to take up to 576m3/day at a
maximum pumping rate of 10 litres/second (for 16 hours/day), six
days per week (Monday to Saturday), 52 weeks per year. This
equates to an annual volume of 179,712m3/year. On the MBIE
website under ‘Entity Type’ the company is listed as a ‘NZ limited
company’.
Thanks,
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Karma
From: Andrea Hilton
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:28 a.m.
To: Liezel Jahnke
Cc: Karma McFarlane; Geoff Swainson; Richard Harbord
Subject: RE: Water consent reply
Hi Liezel
This is fine to share with Crs however Stu’s role relies heavily on a good
relationship with businesses in UH so in his absence I think we should include a
note that the information could have some commercial sensitivity so it should be
kept confidential and not circulated to the public. Basically the Crs are entitled to
know any information known by officers. There are a few exceptions e.g. perhaps
some personnel information, whistle blowing information etc.
I also wonder whether we should reinforce that UHCC’s standing in regards to
consents issued by GWRC is the same as any member of the public and as a
result it cannot influence the granting of a consent to draw water? I’ve added
some words below. Geoff thinks that the consent is likely to have included limits
to the volume and time. If this information is available it would be useful to the
Crs to include this also.
Geoff is waiting for GWRC to call him back about this consent, have you or Karma
spoken to GWRC?
Hi Angela,
Unfortunately Upper Hutt City Council has no jurisdiction to grant a
resource consent for water rights, therefore the consent has been
granted by Greater Wellington Regional Council to take and use
water from an existing bore. The Council is excluded from
contributing to a decision by GWRC to grant a resource consent
unless GWRC decides it is necessary to limited notify the Council or
it is necessary to notify the consent application to the public. This
application was not notified. On the MBIE website under ‘Entity
Type’ the company is listed as a ‘NZ limited company’.
My understanding is that initially the company intend to extract
water under the consent and ship in bulk overseas for bottling at
the point of intended distribution and at some point they will be
looking to have in place a bottling facility at Refreshment Place.
Thanks,
Karma
Regards
Andrea Hilton
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From: Liezel Jahnke <[email address]>
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 9:18 AM
To: Karma McFarlane <[email address]>
Cc: Andrea Hilton <[email address]>
Subject: Re: Water consent reply
Thanks, looks ok to me, Andrea can you comment if we are OK to share this
with Crs?
Kind regards
Liezel Jahnke
Business Improvement Manager | Asset Management and Operations
Upper Hutt City Council
On 5/06/2019, at 9:15 AM, Karma McFarlane
<[email address]> wrote:
Let me know what you think of this reply. It doesn’t look like Stu is
in the office today. I looked up the company on MBIE and it actually
appears to be NZ registered. I have taken the bottom part from the
email the company sent to Stu. Let me know if we cannot share this
information
Thanks
Hi Angela,
The consent has been granted by Greater Wellington Regional
Council to take and use water from an existing bore. On the MBIE
website under ‘Entity Type’ the company is listed as a ‘NZ limited
company’.
My understanding is that initially the company intend to extract
water under the consent and ship in bulk overseas for bottling at
the point of intended distribution and at some point they will be
looking to have in place a bottling facility at Refreshment Place.
Thanks,
Karma
From: Karma McFarlane
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 8:40 a.m.
To: Liezel Jahnke
Subject: RE: working from home today
Will do.
Looking through the information I do have I am not actually sure
they definitely are an overseas company (we never have said they
are just that they have a consent to take water).
Will see what Stu knows.
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From: Liezel Jahnke
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 8:13 a.m.
To: Karma McFarlane
Subject: Re: working from home today
Please check with Stu, though I don’t know if we can find this
out for sure and if that’s the case just need to tell Crs that,
ultimately the regional council has issued the water consent.
And please copy in myself, Peter and Vibhuti to your reply.
Kind regards
Liezel Jahnke
Business Improvement Manager | Asset Management and
Operations
Upper Hutt City Council
On 5/06/2019, at 8:02 AM, Karma McFarlane
<[email address]> wrote:
Hi Liezel
Please see the email from Councillor McLeod
below. I am unsure where the company is based, I
know it is overseas but not sure it is Chinese. I will
check this with Stu before replying. I will cc you into
the response. Should I also cc Peter and Vibhuti?
Karma
From: Angela McLeod
[mailto:[email address]]
Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2019 5:52 a.m.
To: Karma McFarlane
Cc: Cr Blair Griffiths; Cr Chris Carson; Cr Dave
Wheeler; Cr Glenn McArthur; Cr Hellen Swales; Cr
John Gwilliam; Cr Paul Lambert; Cr Ros Connelly; Cr
Taylor; Wayne Guppy; Kate Glanville
Subject: Re: Memo to Councillors on Commercial
Bottling of Water
Many thanks Karma,
The situation at Refreshment Place is most
unfortunate regarding the consent to take water
from the aquifer.
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Do we know for sure that the former Coca-cola
and Unipackaging premises has been bought by
a Chinese company and that they intend to
bottle and export the water from the bore?
Ngā mihi
Angela
Angela McLeod
Councillor, Upper Hutt City Council
Chair, Community Grants Committee
Chair, Wellington Region Waste Forum
Cell: 027 497 2761
Email: [email address]
Web: www.upperhuttcity.com
Life, Leisure, Live it!
Sent from a small device so beware of typos
On Tue, 4 Jun 2019, 16:08 Karma McFarlane,
<[email address]> wrote:
Kia ora,
Please find attached a memo on commercial
bottling of water and the Water Bylaw. This
was tabled and discussed at the mayoral
luncheon on Friday.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks
Karma
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